I also note that the jobs are from Recruit Express. Do you work there?
I also note that the jobs are from Recruit Express. Do you work there?
Last edited by dancemania; 17th September 2014 at 10:39 AM.
I'm here to learn.:flame:
There are moments where you have to bite your lips and go with it. Anyway, it's not a permanent post right? You'll definitely keep a lookout for a better offer.
View it this way, your available option now with a degree paper is S$8.50/hour or S$0.00/hour. Your choice. Even you choose the latter, you still need to spend for basic necessities like f&b.
I've waited for years till I have my break too. If I were picky, n stick to what my qualification paper is worth, I think I would have starved to death before I get my break.
Last edited by Foxshade; 17th September 2014 at 11:05 AM.
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If the job you want isn't out there, either bite your lip and take what's available as Foxshade said, or create your own path, but you will also have to start from scratch if you want to do something entirely new. Start a business, go back to school, learn a trade, freelance, etc.
Found them by merely searching for temp job ads with 'training providing, no exp required', since you implied such jobs didn't exist.
Last edited by kandinsky; 17th September 2014 at 01:24 PM.
Don't restrict yourself to office admin. Think about operations jobs.
If u really wan to learn SAP, there are specific courses on SAP. Comes with certificate somemore
I don't quite believe that every admin needs.SAP, because I myself considered doing admin job in most of my career, even my present job, and I don't even touch SAP at all.
My Leave system is SAP but I'm just a normal user.
Last edited by donut88; 17th September 2014 at 02:26 PM.
People who sit there and expect current employers to GIVE and DO more training are lazy.
Life is about continuous learning - either you do it or you fall behind.
Last edited by Dfive; 17th September 2014 at 02:37 PM.
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Times have changed. In the 70's and 80's, if you have a degree, you have a bright future. Back then, only those with very good grades (practically got to have many A's or at least some B's) then you can get into universities.
After that, in the '90s, the admission criteria were relaxed. They wanted more intake of students. Today, it's the worst of the worst times. Practically, you can score terrible grades, somehow, some uni out there will accept you if you have $$$ to give them. Even our local unis have dropped quite a lot in standard (except perhaps for the few popular courses).
So if I were you, I will think very carefully about whether it is worth it to get a degree. In general, I can say that the usual degrees are no longer a guarantee you will have a comfortable life. You have experienced it yourself on how much they will pay you. $8.50 an hour?
Even if they don't get you, they can get a foreigner or PR who will accept the job. To them, that is quite reasonable money. (Any surprise why this country loves foreigners? Pay them less to get the job done, businesses reap benefits by paying them less, country aka government prospers!)
As to why even small start-ups require you to know many stuffs and multi-task, it's not surprise. Same reason as above. The more they can squeeze out of you, the better it is to run their business. The cost of running a business here ain't cheap. What many don't say is how many businesses fail for every successful one that exists today.
To sum up, I'd say you are pretty much screwed in this country if you don't have a firm or sought after skill set/profession when you are already in your 40's. Good news is, you won't die of starvation. Bad news is, you have to work very hard trying to make ends meet.
Start from bottom and slowly work your way up. Lower your expectations. Work longer (probably past your old age?). Try to get multiple jobs if your body can take it. This advice I think generally applies to graduates and non-graduates out there.
After he completed his course, he applied as a Engineer in the company. Well, I am not saying his degree is useless but it is useless in engineering line if he want to continue as his career. I do not know what degree and yes, even a $10/hr is low for a degree holder but hey, look on the bright side, I took a taxi licence recently and in fact, some are Lawyers and Engineer. What am I saying is we work for living and by working, we will not be rich. To be rich, money has to be invest.
Bottom line is, its a business transaction.
As the payer, why get less for the money.
Would you have employed someone at $5k a month whom you know will need hand holding?
If the person is going to be paid new entrant rates, things will be different. At 40 years old, no one will treat as new entrant. Also, why bother with a 40 year old when there are plenty of new graduates who are easier to train. Not that the 40 year old is difficult but it's one you know and one you're not too sure about.
Sad fact, but that's the way it is.
Just to give you some.encouragement.
I know someone who is a Arts and Social sciences graduate. Know nuts abt finance and accounting.
He got a finance job, and he's not young. He was about 32 when he got this offer.
And as u kmowe, finance will need to use SAP. He knows nothing abt SAP too.
And he.still can learn and.perform this role for 4 good years.
He did fees collection, GBiz procurement, budgeting, spreadsheet, invoice processing, account payable, claims reimbursement and any other finance work u can think of.....
So who say someone must have prior knowledge before he can get an offer?
The most.impt ingredient that the interviewer can see in someone is that this person has a good attitude and chemistry to do a job.
Prior knowledge or not, its not important. If a.person has a F up attitude and thinks highly, no one will hire him, regardless he's fresh grad or old man
So what I am trying to tell u is that the.reasons why no one has offer u a job is not due to SAP experience. It could be more than just the SAP.
it could be your attitude, your body language, your confidence level, your eye movements, the way u talk, the way u dress, your hairstyle, your nails, your face, anything that is causing this problem of not getting a job.
(The right attitude includes the willingness to learn something new.)
Last edited by Octarine; 19th September 2014 at 08:15 AM.
Going for interviews is all about packaging yourself. Everything is a package.
Here, we are talking abt office admin work. A set of norms has already in the mindset and office culture
I ever advised someone, who just couldn't get a bank job after many tries (he has a good MBA, v well qualified for the job), to change his hairstyle and get rid of some body odour, and he got a job right after that.
There are many proven surveys that shows better looking people get the jobs, compared to less attractive people.
Last edited by Sion; 19th September 2014 at 10:51 AM.
A basic degree is quite important nowadays. Even if it does nothing for your job, it does plenty for your self esteem and confidence.
It does give you access to more openings.