For S602Z: Powerful external flash that works (F717 too?)

mpenza · 3rd October 2002

For anyone intending to get a powerful flash, the Nikon SB24 works great using the auto mode. There're 6 auto apertures for ISO 200 (F2.8, F4, F5.6, F8, F11, F16) with the first 5 matching those available in the S602Z. The flash also has settings for ISO1600.

GN is 50m at 85mm zoom. ISO100, quite a bit higher than that of the other popular ones:

Vivitar 285HV (GN43m at 105mm, ISO100),
Metz 32Z-1 (GN37m, 85mm, ISO100) and
Sunpak Super 383 (GN37m 35mm, ISO100).

Under manual mode, you can adjust the power output to 1/16.

Only second hand ones are available now though. But if you can find one cheap, it's great value for money. Other Nikon models (e.g. SB25, SB26) will work well too but they're likely more expensive and any additional features don't work with the S602Z.

Weight is 390g without batteries.

I think it'll work perfectly on the F717 too using the auto mode and is much more powerful than Sony's only TTL flash.

Wolfgang · 3rd October 2002

Congrates on getting your new flash.

mpenza · 3rd October 2002

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Originally posted by Wolfgang
Congrates on getting your new flash.

Thanks

was trying to get the repeating flash to work.... have you tried it?

darkness · 3rd October 2002

Completely new to flashes, is there any primers/intros that I can read on flashes and the various jargon for the specs?? (What's GN?!?) TIA!

Wolfgang · 3rd October 2002

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Originally posted by mpenza

Thanks was trying to get the repeating flash to work.... have you tried it?

You mean strobing ah?

Erm, no leh, not too sure yet. Alot of un explored potential of this flash.

One day we bring it out and test test and exchange pointers?

mpenza · 3rd October 2002

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Originally posted by Wolfgang

You mean strobing ah?

Erm, no leh, not too sure yet. Alot of un explored potential of this flash.

One day we bring it out and test test and exchange pointers?

sure. but got to find time though. pretty busy these days

YSLee · 4th October 2002

You need to calculate the exposure via GN, then make sure your shutter speed is low enough for the strobe to fire off.

4th October 2002

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Originally posted by darkness
Completely new to flashes, is there any primers/intros that I can read on flashes and the various jargon for the specs?? (What's GN?!?) TIA!

GN=Guide Number

Try Kodak's Intro to Flash Photography.

mpenza · 4th October 2002

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Originally posted by YSLee
You need to calculate the exposure via GN, then make sure your shutter speed is low enough for the strobe to fire off.

hmm.... thanks. would try it

mpenza · 4th October 2002

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Originally posted by darkness
Completely new to flashes, is there any primers/intros that I can read on flashes and the various jargon for the specs?? (What's GN?!?) TIA!

you can find some more info here:
http://www.chem.helsinki.fi/~toomas/...sh-faq.html#gn

chenwei · 4th October 2002

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Originally posted by mpenza

... Nikon SB24 works great ....

Vivitar 285HV (GN43m at 105mm, ISO100),
Metz 32Z-1 (GN37m, 85mm, ISO100) and
Sunpak Super 383 (GN37m 35mm, ISO100).

...

heheee... just bought from NitroTech?

just wonder what is the market price for above flash? i am totally new to flash photography but i think flash is essential right? (dunno, coz always see u guys using flash)

GKF · 4th October 2002

How much will this flash cost ???

Planning to get one too but was wondering what's the different between a $50 one and a $150 one ??

Thanks

NitroTech · 4th October 2002

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Originally posted by chenwei

heheee... just bought from NitroTech?

just wonder what is the market price for above flash? i am totally new to flash photography but i think flash is essential right? (dunno, coz always see u guys using flash)

Hehehe!!! And ask him about the condition as well.

NitroTech · 4th October 2002

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Originally posted by GKF
How much will this flash cost ???

Planning to get one too but was wondering what's the different between a $50 one and a $150 one ??

Thanks

The SB-24 will cost about $250 if bought from places like TCW and Prime Camera. But if you buy manage to get it from people like me you pay at most $200. (some more maybe get free Omni-bounce)

Kevin · 4th October 2002

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Originally posted by NitroTech

The SB-24 will cost about $250 if bought from places like TCW and Prime Camera. But if you buy manage to get it from people like me you pay at most $200. (some more maybe get free Omni-bounce)

Brand new one? Does it have a slave trigger and PC sync connection?

Cheers--

mpenza · 4th October 2002

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Originally posted by Kevin
Brand new one? Does it have a slave trigger and PC sync connection?

Cheers--

2nd hand ones. it does not have a PC sync connection but you trigger it via a hotshoe. no slave trigger too.

NitroTech · 4th October 2002

If you guys want more specs abt the SB-24:

http://www.stahlbrandt.com/html/camera/sb-24.html

mpenza · 4th October 2002

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Originally posted by GKF
How much will this flash cost ???

Planning to get one too but was wondering what's the different between a $50 one and a $150 one ??

Thanks

the following refers more to an auto flash than a TTL one.... a more expensive one usually has more power, more flexibility, better light sensor and could swivel and tilt.

1. power (a more powerful flash allows you to bounce the flash more effectively, it also gives you a longer flash coverage)
2. flexibility (the greater the number of auto-aperture, the more flexibility you have for controlling DOF)
3. build quality
4 light sensor (more expensive ones usually come with better light sensors to ensure accurate exposure)
5. features like swivel sideways and tilt up or down

mpenza · 4th October 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by chenwei

heheee... just bought from NitroTech?

just wonder what is the market price for above flash? i am totally new to flash photography but i think flash is essential right? (dunno, coz always see u guys using flash)

condition of the flash is great

NitroTech took good care of it

external flash is essential when you want to use fast shutter to minimise camera shake and freeze motion. it also gives you flexibility to be more creative with using light. The article below gives some good ideas

http://www.metz.de/1_metz_2000/m_pag...name=mecablitz

chenwei · 4th October 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by mpenza

condition of the flash is great NitroTech took good care of it

external flash is essential when you want to use fast shutter to minimise camera shake and freeze motion. it also gives you flexibility to be more creative with using light. The article below gives some good ideas

http://www.metz.de/1_metz_2000/m_pag...name=mecablitz

how's the flash so far? how's it compare to 285? hope to get one but.... mm... maybe next month...

3rd October 2002	#1
mpenza Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,397	For S602Z: Powerful external flash that works (F717 too?) For anyone intending to get a powerful flash, the Nikon SB24 works great using the auto mode. There're 6 auto apertures for ISO 200 (F2.8, F4, F5.6, F8, F11, F16) with the first 5 matching those available in the S602Z. The flash also has settings for ISO1600. GN is 50m at 85mm zoom. ISO100, quite a bit higher than that of the other popular ones: Vivitar 285HV (GN43m at 105mm, ISO100), Metz 32Z-1 (GN37m, 85mm, ISO100) and Sunpak Super 383 (GN37m 35mm, ISO100). Under manual mode, you can adjust the power output to 1/16. Only second hand ones are available now though. But if you can find one cheap, it's great value for money. Other Nikon models (e.g. SB25, SB26) will work well too but they're likely more expensive and any additional features don't work with the S602Z. Weight is 390g without batteries. I think it'll work perfectly on the F717 too using the auto mode and is much more powerful than Sony's only TTL flash.

3rd October 2002	#2
Wolfgang Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Riddle Realms Posts: 5,831	Congrates on getting your new flash. __________________ -- "High Wired, Dream Sired"

4th October 2002	#17
NitroTech Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: In Paradise Posts: 672	If you guys want more specs abt the SB-24: http://www.stahlbrandt.com/html/camera/sb-24.html __________________ "His haircut proved he was a fag, Torres Torres. He always liked to be tea-bagged, Torres Torres!

3rd October 2002	#4
darkness Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 757	Completely new to flashes, is there any primers/intros that I can read on flashes and the various jargon for the specs?? (What's GN?!?) TIA!

4th October 2002	#7
YSLee Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,262	You need to calculate the exposure via GN, then make sure your shutter speed is low enough for the strobe to fire off.

4th October 2002	#12
GKF Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 173	How much will this flash cost ??? Planning to get one too but was wondering what's the different between a $50 one and a $150 one ?? Thanks