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    Default Should Modern Forensic solve old myths and tales?

    It may be hundreds of years since Southern-Song Dynasty General Yue Fei was put to death by corrupted officials led by Qin Hui. However, according to many sources, nobody knows the real cause of Yue Fei's death. Some said that he died in the prison; while some said that he was poisoned in prison; while some said that he was secretly executed.

    If modern forensic is able to determine his real cause of death from his remains, it will help solve the mystery of how did he die. Let the world know the truth.

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    Whatever the 'Truth' is.... Myth has long taken over... don't see any point in digging him up (not even sure is there anything left to dig up) for something that change nothing in real life...

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    yue fei was a real person??

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    I would rather we use modern entrapment methods to capture a real hantu tek tek.

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    Why the question? Modern science is already on the tracks and trails of many folk tales and stories. I just read an article about Germany where forensic experts are exhuming a lady named "dark duchess", died 1837, suspected to be the offspring of some royals but kept hidden till her death to avoid political scandals and possibly wars (perfect story, right? ). Now it has become clear that she is no offspring of any involved royal family. But due to some remarkable details of her DNA they hope to identify her and her origin.
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    Default Re: Should Modern Forensic solve old myths and tales?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    yue fei was a real person??
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yue_Fei


    and he wrote 满江红

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi View Post
    It may be hundreds of years since Southern-Song Dynasty General Yue Fei was put to death by corrupted officials led by Qin Hui. However, according to many sources, nobody knows the real cause of Yue Fei's death. Some said that he died in the prison; while some said that he was poisoned in prison; while some said that he was secretly executed.

    If modern forensic is able to determine his real cause of death from his remains, it will help solve the mystery of how did he die. Let the world know the truth.
    Not possible. The condition of the dead body must be good in order to determine the cause of death.

    Yue Fei never got a proper burial until many years after his death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yutaka Go View Post
    Not possible. The condition of the dead body must be good in order to determine the cause of death.

    Yue Fei never got a proper burial until many years after his death.
    It is indeed sad for a good man to die in such a manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yutaka Go View Post
    Not possible. The condition of the dead body must be good in order to determine the cause of death.
    Yeah, really depends on the condition of the body, and how much has been preserved.

    Reminds me of the story of Ötzi the Iceman:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96tzi

    Talk about a cold case. Researchers in Italy and Switzerland have announced that they have determined the cause of death for the Iceman. He’s that incredibly well preserved frozen mummy that was found sticking out of a glacier in the Alps near the Italy-Austria border, about 10,000 feet up, back in 1991. He’d been lying there for about 5,000 years.

    In 2005, the mummy, sometimes referred to as Frozen Fritz, was subjected to noninvasive multislice computed tomography, often called a CT scan. In a paper published this week in the Journal of Archaeological Science, the scan found a lesion in the left subclavian artery. That’s the big blood vessel underneath the clavicle, or collarbone. The lesion was apparently cause by an arrowhead that’s still lodged in the Iceman’s back. A large hemotoma extends into the surrounding tissue. Modern records of such injuries indicate that the Iceman survived for only a short time after suffering this injury. There’s no statute of limitation on murder, and his killers are still at large. Global warming may yet reveal the perpetrators, should a dying glacier set them free.

    http://www.scientificamerican.com/po...b1eeeb0cb774a/

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