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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbonetics View Post
    why do we need to do so much PP for birds?
    I shoot RAW mainly to retrieve some "lost" colors,shadows or highlights and better control in noise not really because of sharpening.
    JPEG can be very sharp too. if the image is not sharp,no matter what file u shoot and how u PP also no use.
    how u shoot it is primary,how u pp it is secondary.
    Turbonetics,

    When I said PP before in the other forum (http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1429313,
    PP seemed to do wonders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shierwin View Post
    ... Or get a superzoom bridge that can shoot up to 1200mm... light and compact
    Shierwin,

    No doubt superzoom bridge is a best camera, but do a reasonable expectation in terms of IQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EisMann View Post
    Scoobydive,

    I don't suppose those were live birds when you took the shots.

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    whatever, hahahaha
    believe it or not

    but this how i took eagle picture lol

    me by Henry Sudarman, on Flickr
    Last edited by scoobydive; 5th August 2014 at 11:52 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoobydive View Post
    whatever, hahahaha
    believe it or not

    these are the few birds that is almost impossible to get close to and yet u were able to shoot with such a short lens without crop.
    the distant must be very very very near below 50cm.
    do u work as a zoo keeper that looks after birds? these shots is almost hard to believe they are wild birds and even captive birds may not allow such a close distant.

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    Another NX11 + 30/2.0 in action
    no crop at all


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    Quote Originally Posted by Turbonetics View Post
    these are the few birds that is almost impossible to get close to and yet u were able to shoot with such a short lens without crop.
    the distant must be very very very near below 50cm.
    do u work as a zoo keeper that looks after birds? these shots is almost hard to believe they are wild birds and even captive birds may not allow such a close distant.

    i am not a zoo keeper at all
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    Sharp eye by Henry Sudarman, on Flickr

    Samsung 50-200
    still no crop, xixixixixixi
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    Default Re: minimum focal length to shoot bird?

    When I said PP before in the other forum (http://www.clubsnap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1429313,
    PP seemed to do wonders.

    EisMann[/QUOTE]

    Turbonetics,

    I apologise for the gibberish reply. That flu med must have got into me.

    I was saying when I mentioned PP, I was referring to an earlier forum discussion where PP could do wonders.

    EisMann

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    believe it or not

    but this how i took eagle picture lol

    me by Henry Sudarman, on Flickr[/QUOTE]

    Scoobydive,

    If that is a live bird and you are not a zookeeper, you are indeed a BirdMan.

    EisMann


    Psst! I am tracking a pair of WBSE and brahminy kite in Yishun area, can help me tame them to fly nearer from 300m to say, 25m away so that I can have a sharp shot? /
    Txs in advance.

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    When shooting tame or trained birds, one can even use a handphone to shoot. But what is the joy in that. Then again people get joy out of different things.

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    showing captive birds is totally OT!

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    Similar to other genres: the context and conditions of the subject should be revealed. If the bird is tame or otherwise held captive it should be stated with the picture to avoid confusions or other responses. What defines technique and approach is the general purpose of the image. Obviously, a captive bird will not show the same behaviour as one living in the forest. In both cases, respect the animal and do not overstep limits of law and common sense.
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    Default Re: minimum focal length to shoot bird?

    The point is... if you can get close to the birds whether they are in captive or wild, you can shoot with whatever focal length you want.



    focal length: 42mm

    There really is no rule as to what is the minimum focal length in which to shoot the bird (without disturbing or destroying their natural habitat). Normally a longer focal length lens would help one achieve his/her shots easier because they can stand further away from the bird when taking the shot and will not need to creep into the bird's natural habitat.

    Although I am not an expert in this area, but with my limited skills, I normally shoot at 200mm and 300mm (thats my longest lens btw).
    I am not a photographer, just someone who happened to have a couple of cameras.
    My lousy shots

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    Anyone tried mirror reflex lens for birding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitaro9202 View Post
    200mm is short enough need at least how many mm to shoot birding?
    TS's post is very vague and didn't state what type of birding so everybody poured in different suggestions for different type of bird photography and till now no response from TS just shows his nonchalant attitude.

    Those posts from Scoobydive are indeed very misleading and he should state the conditions on how those birds was shot and thanks to EisMann for digging out. It is very misleading for inexperience birders and they may thought "oh,I have the 24-70mm lens I can go out and shoot birds". Scoobydiver makes not big difference from a zookeeper who gets access to handle tame birds. It was no wonder most of his shots are only showing head because those birds are not on natural perch and probably some with rings on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user12343 View Post
    Anyone tried mirror reflex lens for birding?
    U can ask Teck Heng about it.
    He is most willing to share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhino123 View Post
    The point is... if you can get close to the birds whether they are in captive or wild, you can shoot with whatever focal length you want. focal length: 42mm There really is no rule as to what is the minimum focal length in which to shoot the bird (without disturbing or destroying their natural habitat). Normally a longer focal length lens would help one achieve his/her shots easier because they can stand further away from the bird when taking the shot and will not need to creep into the bird's natural habitat. Although I am not an expert in this area, but with my limited skills, I normally shoot at 200mm and 300mm (thats my longest lens btw).
    Indeed there are no rules as to what minimum focal length to use. It boils down to individual's standard and satisfaction level of the photo.

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    Scoobydrive what focal would u propose for newbies to take pic of wild animals in South Africa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bart Tan View Post
    Scoobydrive what focal would u propose for newbies to take pic of wild animals in South Africa?
    take the longest lens you can afford to buy, since the place is heaven for wildlife hunter lol
    for me, i will take my tamron 60B with TC or willing to rent at canon pro or nikon pro club
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoobydive View Post
    take the longest lens you can afford to buy, since the place is heaven for wildlife hunter lol
    for me, i will take my tamron 60B with TC or willing to rent at canon pro or nikon pro club
    I thought u will say 14mm f2.8.

    Joke a bit la
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