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    Quote Originally Posted by Racoon
    Totally agree. When my dad passed away, we arranged for some monks to chant for the prayer services. This was done thru' the funeral parlour. The monks came in a huge MPV, wears branded watches, takes 5-10 minutes break for every 10-mins prayers said and best of all, the main "monk" kept looking at his watch which he placed on the table, the 2nd monk kept checking his pager (guessed it was b'cos there was a soccer match that nite) and the 3rd monk kept meddling with his fingernails thru'out the whole service!!


    The 2nd monk kept using our phone to make calls during intervals and when the phone bill came later that month, we realised they were calls made to Malaysia!! Not that the bill adds to a large amt but, for goodness sake!!! They were paid for the service so....they should do a decent job!!!
    Guess everyone is too sad to do anything.... only to realise later..
    Just hope that the chant work well.

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    Again.. not fair to use Steve Job as example... he owns APPLE shares and benefit more if APPLE do well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smallaperture
    A majority of the religious folks have got something called Passion, Passion for the religion, for God. They devote their lives to it, in exclusion of other worldly stuff. Just like some of us have got Passion for Photo. With that, they do not think of material things, or be easily tempted.

    In every sector, there are bound to be some black sheeps around and they get all the publicity.
    In this case it's the "black monks"?

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    Why would buddha want their students to live simple and a non materialistic life? If the reason is to raise money to help the poor, cure the sick then buddha would have use his influent and healing power. But instead, he teaches his student about karma, born, illness and death is part of life and unavoidable. Being so call devoted student of buddha, these monk did not follow buddha teaching but instead sell these urns like private estate, run their temple like corporation, behaving like CEO, raise money instead of purifying people spiriturally.

    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racoon
    Totally agree. When my dad passed away, we arranged for some monks to chant for the prayer services. This was done thru' the funeral parlour. The monks came in a huge MPV, wears branded watches, takes 5-10 minutes break for every 10-mins prayers said and best of all, the main "monk" kept looking at his watch which he placed on the table, the 2nd monk kept checking his pager (guessed it was b'cos there was a soccer match that nite) and the 3rd monk kept meddling with his fingernails thru'out the whole service!!


    The 2nd monk kept using our phone to make calls during intervals and when the phone bill came later that month, we realised they were calls made to Malaysia!! Not that the bill adds to a large amt but, for goodness sake!!! They were paid for the service so....they should do a decent job!!!
    this is sad... corruption is rife in singapore.

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    True cultivators of the spiritual path will not choose to live a luxurious life even if they have the means. The spiritual path is a path of letting go of all desires, because it can prevent a person from seeing the truth.

    Can you believe a person who drives an expensive car, visits high-class restaurants & spends on expensive items tells you that he is not attached to any of these?

    The answer is no, if he made the above decisions by himself, which were governed by greed!

    Now, I am not refering that the Ceo of a particular charity hospital is guilty of greed. We do not know how he lives his life, so can't make any comment about it.

    Moreover, the Buddhist practice teaches us to accumulate merits & not to spend merits!
    Accumulating merits will ensure us a better life now & in future rebirth. Spending one's merits will only increase greed & creates many unwholesome karma.

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    Why is CPIB keeping so quiet recently...

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddog
    Why is CPIB keeping so quiet recently...
    they have to ......unless you want them to open a can of worms....???

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddog
    Why is CPIB keeping so quiet recently...
    If you really want to know.......go treat them a cup coffee with them.























    Oh wait you can't.....that's bribery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Racoon
    Totally agree. When my dad passed away, we arranged for some monks to chant for the prayer services. This was done thru' the funeral parlour. The monks came in a huge MPV, wears branded watches, takes 5-10 minutes break for every 10-mins prayers said and best of all, the main "monk" kept looking at his watch which he placed on the table, the 2nd monk kept checking his pager (guessed it was b'cos there was a soccer match that nite) and the 3rd monk kept meddling with his fingernails thru'out the whole service!!


    The 2nd monk kept using our phone to make calls during intervals and when the phone bill came later that month, we realised they were calls made to Malaysia!! Not that the bill adds to a large amt but, for goodness sake!!! They were paid for the service so....they should do a decent job!!!
    It's all a matter of interpretation .....
    The main monk kept looking at his watch because he knew when the gate to the heaven will be opened and he made sure the dead will arrive on time and not missing it,
    The 2nd monk kept checking with his pager , probably his contact up there will page for him for the right moment to offer the right prayers, and
    The last monk probably called his counterparts in Malaysia to confirm what the first 2 monks have got ....
    always the Light, .... always.

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    Why no one said the almighty is corrupt as well......beautiful places of worship. At the expense of impoverished billions.

    All along I was taught the temple of god is in everyman's heart




    Unbelievable,

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    There are many taoists & monks who offer chanting services for funerals. Some are fake ones, I overheard somebody who talked about the easy money that can be made from offering such services. These few people(taoists) do not know very much about the traditional chanting & procedures, they just invent their own and then go around offering their services!

    And even if some monks know how to chant the sutras, they may not do it in a proper & respectful manner. As somebody has said, they are chanting but their hearts are not in the chanting. Do you think they can bring any benefits to the dead with such incorrect attitude during the chanting services?

    It is best to seek the advice from a respectable monastery for any funeral services. Don't pay unnecessay money to those cheats. These cheats will have to receive punishment after their present lives.

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    Religion itself is pure. It's the people who practice it that make religion complicated and complex. If one is able to influence others (esp towards weak-minded), then he can gain access to all the wealth these people have cumulated.

    Nobody is right or wrong. Let whoever is without sin to throw the first stone. Damn. Why are we so quick to jump to conclusion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by k_istDS
    All you see TT doing is asking the Actors to do tough stunts.. and not paid for..
    the artistes were paid handsomely from donors money, chao ci tai was paid $16800 to be the host and the rest of the artistes also got few K each

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canonised
    It's all a matter of interpretation .....
    The main monk kept looking at his watch because he knew when the gate to the heaven will be opened and he made sure the dead will arrive on time and not missing it,
    The 2nd monk kept checking with his pager , probably his contact up there will page for him for the right moment to offer the right prayers, and
    The last monk probably called his counterparts in Malaysia to confirm what the first 2 monks have got ....
    Yeah, so you interpret it as a joke! Please be more sensitive to other's feeling. Are you happy if that happened to you.

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    ON Discovery channel recently, there was a documentary on Shaolin Temple. The chief abbot said, matter of fact, that he ran the temple like an organisation, and himself as the CEO. He controls the Shaolin trademark, expand his temple compounds, manage the Shaolin gongfu troupes etc. His reason for doing so? Modernisation. In the 21 century, Shaolin temple cannot be left behind by time. It also has to revolve to keep up with the times.. Look at the other temple sects, eg Ermei, Wudang etc, they have seem long gone etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric69
    ON Discovery channel recently, there was a documentary on Shaolin Temple. The chief abbot said, matter of fact, that he ran the temple like an organisation, and himself as the CEO. He controls the Shaolin trademark, expand his temple compounds, manage the Shaolin gongfu troupes etc. His reason for doing so? Modernisation. In the 21 century, Shaolin temple cannot be left behind by time. It also has to revolve to keep up with the times.. Look at the other temple sects, eg Ermei, Wudang etc, they have seem long gone etc.
    Yeah, Shaolin temple is becoming a tourist attraction. And inorder to attract millions of tourists, they have to run it like a modern corporation. Seen in that direction, they are doing the right thing. But true monastic cultivation in the temple has to give way to all these modern activities. True cultivators do not live in a crowded tourist attraction and become the objects of tourists' cameras. When you choose one thing, you have to let go of the other.

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    Maybe next time we can get that Ren Ci monk to dress Bikini and do cat walk for fund raising since the aim is to raise more fund and probably more exciting then he climb Raffles City or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wai
    the artistes were paid handsomely from donors money, chao ci tai was paid $16800 to be the host and the rest of the artistes also got few K each
    How you get that figure?

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