Why Buy Secondhand

concorde · 24th July 2005

Here u go guys
check this out

http://www.epinions.com/pr-Sigma_28_...4_0_Aspherical

mpenza · 24th July 2005

wat's this about?

concorde · 24th July 2005

As it says why buy second hand stuff when you can buy the brand new stuff cheaper ???
If u look around you can find lots of good stuff cheaper ,,, Lens, Filters, Cameras etc

Cheers

londonray · 24th July 2005

Originally Posted by concorde

As it says why buy second hand stuff when you can buy the brand new stuff cheaper ???
If u look around you can find lots of good stuff cheaper ,,, Lens, Filters, Cameras etc

Cheers

Cause it's on the internet... and there are lots of scammers out there? I mean maybe in Singapore you guys don't really feel it... but "out of this world" prices seem like scams to me... ebay UK and other online shops in the US have many scammers... hence cheap doesn't necessarily mean good... but that's just being cautious...

If you think that it's really a good bargain then by all means go ahead.... I prefer to meet face to face for 2nd hand deals... able to check the item quality and also see the seller... makes me feel safer... maybe I am just one of those people who do not believe in online shopping... haha..

Btw, I saw the webpage you led us to.. so how cheap is the 28-105 compared to 2nd hand prices here? I am also looking for 1... haha...

concorde · 24th July 2005

http://www.epinions.com/search/?subm..._submit=Search

Check them out ??? not being funny ?? just trying to help ?? and whats this Singapore thing ?????

Firefox · 24th July 2005

Originally Posted by concorde

As it says why buy second hand stuff when you can buy the brand new stuff cheaper ???
If u look around you can find lots of good stuff cheaper ,,, Lens, Filters, Cameras etc

Cheers

Not exactly true..
If you'd note, websites like the one you linked scour the web for the lowest prices from Merchants.. However, many of these Merchants actually list prices for 2nd hand and/ or grey market items, not new manufacturer warrantied items.
This makes the price seem very very low but a quick visit would show that the item(s) in question are not new units.
The lowered price on new items is not as substantial as to cover issues like shipping costs, taxes and lack of warranty.

shinken · 24th July 2005

I feel there's some truth, and I see value in this thread. I almost bought a lens here which cost more than what I was quoted from a storefront. The 2nd hand prices here can be quite atrocious. Many sellers do not quite accept the concept of depreciation. Something that has been used for a year or two can be quoted equal, or maybe ten dollars cheaper than a brand new price. I see value in this thread, at least new comers can be more aware, that even from shops in Singapore, the cost may be very marginally higher (and in some cases, cheaper) than the price that is offered here in the buy and sell market.

People who frequent buy-and-sell forum elsewhere would assume it's a good deal, especially when they just entered the world of photography. But at many resale markets, we are talking about 30-50% depreciation for 2nd hand, and 10-20% further when 2nd hand gets back into the resale market. Here, we are talking about zero depreciation to 10% depreciation? I'm a seller too, but even here at clubsnap, I try to apply depreciation fairly.

concorde · 24th July 2005

Have a look here firefox m8
just trying to help ??? as i am new to the forum

http://www.waltersphotovideo.co.uk/u...0F2.8-4%20LENS

as i am from the uk n. ireland

cheers

ricohflex · 24th July 2005

luck of the draw.
sometimes you get good deal.
sometimes no.

if you know what you are buying then 2nd hand is great.
savings are incredible sometimes.

I have also kicked myself for missing some super deals.

the bottomline is 2nd hand saves you money.

2nd hand is also the place for stuff that is no longer in production.
you cannot go to a store and buy it and order it.

i like to buy stuff like that.

please note that if the item is rare, wondrous and famed AND NO LONGER MADE, then the 2nd hand price for a mint condition one is many times the "new" price when it was sold 30 years ago.

examples :

Leica Thambar lens
Leica Luftwaffe air reconnaisance camera (highest auction price)
1950s Nikon rangefinders
Rolleiflex Aurum or Platin
China's HONGCHI (Leica M copies)
China's copy of the Hasselblad (heard price is now half million dollars; China now got many billionaires who are keen to collect such.)
and if you can get it back..... the Hasselblad left by USA astronauts after the 1st manned moon landing..that one worth a lot.

24th July 2005	#1
concorde New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5	Why Buy Secondhand Here u go guys check this out http://www.epinions.com/pr-Sigma_28_...4_0_Aspherical

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ricohflex Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: sing Posts: 1,535	2nd luck of the draw. sometimes you get good deal. sometimes no. if you know what you are buying then 2nd hand is great. savings are incredible sometimes. I have also kicked myself for missing some super deals. the bottomline is 2nd hand saves you money. 2nd hand is also the place for stuff that is no longer in production. you cannot go to a store and buy it and order it. i like to buy stuff like that. please note that if the item is rare, wondrous and famed AND NO LONGER MADE, then the 2nd hand price for a mint condition one is many times the "new" price when it was sold 30 years ago. examples : Leica Thambar lens Leica Luftwaffe air reconnaisance camera (highest auction price) 1950s Nikon rangefinders Rolleiflex Aurum or Platin China's HONGCHI (Leica M copies) China's copy of the Hasselblad (heard price is now half million dollars; China now got many billionaires who are keen to collect such.) and if you can get it back..... the Hasselblad left by USA astronauts after the 1st manned moon landing..that one worth a lot.

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mpenza Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,397	wat's this about?

24th July 2005	#7
shinken Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pasir Ris Posts: 1,269	I feel there's some truth, and I see value in this thread. I almost bought a lens here which cost more than what I was quoted from a storefront. The 2nd hand prices here can be quite atrocious. Many sellers do not quite accept the concept of depreciation. Something that has been used for a year or two can be quoted equal, or maybe ten dollars cheaper than a brand new price. I see value in this thread, at least new comers can be more aware, that even from shops in Singapore, the cost may be very marginally higher (and in some cases, cheaper) than the price that is offered here in the buy and sell market. People who frequent buy-and-sell forum elsewhere would assume it's a good deal, especially when they just entered the world of photography. But at many resale markets, we are talking about 30-50% depreciation for 2nd hand, and 10-20% further when 2nd hand gets back into the resale market. Here, we are talking about zero depreciation to 10% depreciation? I'm a seller too, but even here at clubsnap, I try to apply depreciation fairly.