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    Quote Originally Posted by harnamsc View Post
    And numerous reports abound that Australians are calling their travel agents and changing their flights from Malaysian Airlines to other carriers.
    Smart move, the San Bi star is very inauspicious.
    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/malaysia-ai...a-2014-1457306

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    Quote Originally Posted by An drew View Post
    It is even more difficult to make an airliner disappear. Maybe the Russians think that if the Americans can bring down one MH without repercussions, so can they. We need the referee to give 2 red cards.
    What makes you so sure that it was the Russians?
    It could be the same culprit as the first one trying to stop a 2nd attempt to bring in something special. LOL. But this time round trying to frame it on someone else. Smart move, I say. You can't use the same disappearing act twice, you know? Will raise suspicion. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2xpeter View Post
    What makes you so sure that it was the Russians?
    It could be the same culprit as the first one trying to stop a 2nd attempt to bring in something special. LOL. But this time round trying to frame it on someone else. Smart move, I say. You can't use the same disappearing act twice, you know? Will raise suspicion. LOL.
    You read too much conspiracies. Knowing Putin past, who is Russia's President for two term then prime minister than President to circumvent to Russian constitution on number of terms can serve at that post, he will always be suspected as the mastermind. Add up his past credential as ex-KGB in Soviet Era and it completes the picture.

    Which other individual leader does that?

    Personally I see him as a some sort of Mafia boss rather than a International leader. I can only see him continue for a 2nd term as President. Things will not get better until his influence dissapates, not any time soon, anyway.

    Only he can move the goal post in the current situation. A very slippery snake, he is. Even if there is overwhelming evidence, he will brush it aside. No point Angela Merkel cajoling him.

    I believe this situation of hindering the investigations has past any Diplomatic or Economic resolutions, only a military intervention will move things.UN needs to decide soon or those Goons with weapons will make a mockery of international laws.
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    It's a hard to do body recovery from Ukraine... the bodies have been left in the open for > 48 hours, and repatriating them home to whatever country will be tough too.
    Most unfortunate.. they will have a field day with the insurer's of MAS...

    It will be an opportune time for Air Asia or some Government linked person to take MAS private, and they will mostly cut jobs... this may also mean that MAS' service to rural communities will be affected...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    But doesn't this help Malaysia?
    The bomohs need to make a trip to the San Bi Star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2xpeter View Post
    What makes you so sure that it was the Russians?
    It could be the same culprit as the first one trying to stop a 2nd attempt to bring in something special. LOL. But this time round trying to frame it on someone else. Smart move, I say. You can't use the same disappearing act twice, you know? Will raise suspicion. LOL.
    I know nothing. You must be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenieadi View Post
    I believe this situation of hindering the investigations has past any Diplomatic or Economic resolutions, only a military intervention will move things.UN needs to decide soon or those Goons with weapons will make a mockery of international laws.
    Sorry to break it to you, but none of the Great Powers respect international law. The UN is powerless and utterly useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NazgulKing View Post
    Sorry to break it to you, but none of the Great Powers respect international law. The UN is powerless and utterly useless.
    As if I never read world news and history. The problem now is Putin not Russia. The status of Permanent Security Council members should be abolish.

    Whatever UN resolution will be vetoed by Russia, no brainer, and it allies will abstain to follow suit.

    Rendering such moves useless. No amount of diplomacy and sanctions can change this situation.

    More propaganda war is surfacing with Ukraine officials showing intercepted communications between rebels leaders talking of already founding the black box or DVR and sending it to Moscow.

    These maybe real or fake but does nothing to improve the situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenieadi View Post
    As if I never read world news and history. The problem now is Putin not Russia. The status of Permanent Security Council members should be abolish.

    Whatever UN resolution will be vetoed by Russia, no brainer, and it allies will abstain to follow suit.

    Rendering such moves useless. No amount of diplomacy and sanctions can change this situation.
    Then why bother writing up a post up on a high pedestal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronniegogs View Post
    If this is true they will try to hide the details now. The commander did tweet about the attack then deleted it.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-fly-sky.html
    aiyo, are you insulting the intelligence of the Russians or what?

    You think they are really so careless to tweet this type of sensitive info over the internet, for everyone to see? LOL

    You hv to take this article with a pinch of salt.

    It could be somebody else trying to frame them. ya? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2xpeter View Post
    What makes you so sure that it was the Russians?
    It could be the same culprit as the first one trying to stop a 2nd attempt to bring in something special. LOL. But this time round trying to frame it on someone else. Smart move, I say. You can't use the same disappearing act twice, you know? Will raise suspicion. LOL.
    Quote Originally Posted by d2xpeter View Post
    aiyo, are you insulting the intelligence of the Russians or what?

    You think they are really so careless to tweet this type of sensitive info over the internet, for everyone to see? LOL

    You hv to take this article with a pinch of salt.

    It could be somebody else trying to frame them. ya? LOL
    I am starting to get what you are trying to say. The Americans are not satisfied to just bring down MH370, now they want to frame the shooting of MH17 on the Russians so that can bring the world's attention on the Ukraine crisis. The dastardly Americans, they will even betray the Transformers.
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    The probability of a SIA plane being hit is almost twice of MAS...they were lucky...
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    Gold And Silver – Let “Dollar” Collapse Or Choose War. Elites Will Opt For War

    Commodities / Gold and Silver 2014Jun 07, 2014 - 05:30 PM GMTBy: Michael_Noonan
    The world has never been in a position like this before, where all global currencies are fiat and dependent upon central banker power. The push for a New World Order is inexorable, and make no mistake, the monied elites are fully in control, or almost so. We maintain this is why so many in the Precious Metals community have miscalculated the timing for when gold and silver would take off to the upside, collapsing the Fed's fiat "dollar," or as a result thereof.

    Ukraine is truly the test where East meets West. It is the US-led coup that is a staging ground for an assault on Russia. Obama is leading the charge, once again, choosing the drums of war to get across the message that to challenge the supremacy of the "dollar" as the world's reserve currency, [as the ATM machine used by the elites to pillage the world's assets and remain in control], can have a serious outcome.

    From a rational perspective, it is more than difficult to make sense out of the Kabuki theater conducted by the elites, but the consequences for challenging their power structure could very well become a theater of war.

    On the surface, it appears that the East is almost in control of most of the world's supply of gold, while the West remains in control of gold's pricing mechanism, doing whatever it takes to preserve the fiat "dollar" as the world's reserve currency for international trade contracts. In addition to gaining control of physical gold, even setting up the Shanghai Gold Exchange, [SGE], as a more viable alternative to the literally "fixed' pricing of paper gold by COMEX and LBMA, the East is providing an alternative trade outside of the "dollar," and this has created a situation akin to the West as a dangerous cornered rat.

    We put " " around the word "dollar" because in law, fiat Federal Reserve Notes, [FRNs] are NOT actual dollars but commercial debt instruments. Debt cannot be money. It is the opposite of money, so FRNs are a total deceit on the world.

    The formation of the BRICS countries, seeking a better alternative for trade between nations, has been a natural outgrowth to by-pass the Western-controlled petrodollar. It has been the pluperfect implementation of the Rothschild formula for issuing a fiat currency and extracting the wealth of nations in return. The East, [BRICS nations and a growing list of others aligning with Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa] has had its fill.

    Russia has been coming back as an economic powerhouse ever since the central bankers, led by the US, crippled their currency that led to the dissolve of the USSR. China has become the 1,000 pound gorilla on the world's economic stage. China was double-crossed by the US during the Clinton administration when the Chinese found out that all their gold that had been entrusted to the Federal Reserve had been sold out behind their backs. The central banking elites never anticipated its total control of the world's financial system would one day be challenged, as it is now, by both China and Russia.

    There is not much the US can do against China due to the high amount of Treasury bonds China owns. China could easily dump them on the world market and financially ruin the US, along with the rest of the Western world. The reason why China has not done so is because there is no alternative system that can readily replace the corrupt central bank control via Basil, World Bank, and the IMF. The BRICS nations are closer to setting up their own alternative banking system, but more time is required.

    We cannot speak for how UK and the EU are viewing the US-led coup of Ukraine, but in America, War Lord Obama has been selling the situation as Russia trying to take over Ukraine, Soviet style, as it did Hungary and a few other nations. The US media refuses to report the truth that the coup in Ukraine was financed and led by Obama- as-puppet-for-the-elites in an endeavor to weaken, and ultimately destroy Russia.

    The US has troops and/or military bases in over 185 nations. The US has been engaged in, or covertly initiated just about every war on the planet for 218 of its 238 years of existence. The US has been steadily encircling Russia, via NATO, for decades, with missiles pointed at that country. It may come as a surprise for Americans to learn that the US also have soldiers in former parts of the USSR.: Moldova, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan, and now, Ukraine.

    Russia has none of its troops or missiles in any other country, by contrast. Rest assured that Obama intends to get missiles into Ukraine, if at all possible. Obama lies to American citizens, and the world, about Ukraine every time he moves his lips, blaming Russia for the US-led coup

    You can read more here:
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    Incredible hostage holding of the dead bodies now, and the rebels also refuse to give up the black box.. although that one is more moot, as it won't really add a lot more info..
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    Quote Originally Posted by petetherock View Post
    Incredible hostage holding of the dead bodies now, and the rebels also refuse to give up the black box.. although that one is more moot, as it won't really add a lot more info..
    The bodies are in the refrigerated train and there's a war going on....
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    Quote Originally Posted by NazgulKing View Post
    The bodies are in the refrigerated train and there's a war going on....
    It is a complicated war.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/how-and...kraine/5371940

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    http://m.theatlantic.com/internation...rlines/374713/
    MAS followed all the proper procedures.
    So did the maintenance crews of SMRT. The rest is known history.
    What many people forget once they have entered the corporate world, is: procedures will not replace critical thinking and independent analysis of the situation. Procedures are a guideline, nothing more, nothing less. If the frame conditions for the standard procedure are no longer valid then this procedure cannot be applied anymore. So the question is (not only to MAS): why on Earth did they still cross this area despite the known risk? Tragically, the industry only learns from mistakes that often end up in disasters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    Tragically, the industry only learns from mistakes that often end up in disasters.
    More tragically, industry often don't learn from mistakes. How many space shuttles had to be destroyed?

    The incident involving MH17 is not the first occasion on which a civilian airliner has been shot down over a war zone.
    On July 2, 1988, an Iran Air 655 Airbus was hit by the US Navy ship Vincennes at an altitude of 14,000 feet, causing the deaths of all 290 people on board, after being mistaken for a military aircraft.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-war-zone.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by An drew View Post
    More tragically, industry often don't learn from mistakes. How many space shuttles had to be destroyed?
    According this logic any form of human space travel should be stopped. But how do you intend to make it safe without trial?
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    Quote Originally Posted by petetherock View Post
    SO F'ED UP !!!

    I say bomb the crap out of those terrible culprits.. may they all go to hell... or just lock them in Chernobyl's Radioactive Core... let them suffer slowly !!!
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