IR Photography at night?

jsbn · 19th July 2005

Wondering if its possible to do IR Photography in low light at night?

gernie · 20th July 2005

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apologies to those who got frighten

fuse · 20th July 2005

Originally Posted by gernie

here is the night IR... ppl standing on the field...

thats scary...........

Francis247 · 20th July 2005

Hi, I am also interested in IR Photography. Just wandering, how did you manage to capture the photo? What setting did you use?

gernie · 20th July 2005

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apologies to those who got frighten

TrailsofLife · 20th July 2005

hi guys,

ir is just a technique, just like long exposure, panning etc. There's more to photography that's important. Like composition, exposure, and the story behind the photo. There's no point shooting ir at night unless you have a story to tell that needs the effect.

Cheers
Max 2.8

slaam · 20th July 2005

hmmm i know my nikon 5400 can do IR with an IR filter but then i get trouble focusing in lowlight cos my camera dun have a helper light. anyone tried night IR with nikon 5400?

jimjim · 21st July 2005

Originally Posted by gernie

got a lot of 'ghost shadow'.

gernie · 21st July 2005

Originally Posted by Max 2.8

hi guys,

ir is just a technique, just like long exposure, panning etc. There's more to photography that's important. Like composition, exposure, and the story behind the photo. There's no point shooting ir at night unless you have a story to tell that needs the effect.

Cheers
Max 2.8

ookay~ agree with what u said... just a test shot for jsbn bout nite IR...

jsbn, read bout IR more before ask...kekeke

posting nite IR ain't good .

... apologies to those who got frighten....

slaam ... just focus to infinity...(from ur post i believe u r new... kekeke)

jsbn · 25th July 2005

Hehehe... well, I started this topic partly becos of the following reasons:

1) Dis entire IR photography thing is pretty new to me.
2) I went to OCH over the weekend. Since that whole place has got zero lighting, I was wondering aloud if its possible to do IR Photography to capture the 'brothers from the next world'.

Unfortunately, I did not have to spend $200 for a 77mm Hoya R72 IR Filter. I did capture something... With just my lens, 300D and Sigma flash on Manual High mode.

Using all my logical explainations and left brain to answer the phenomena is near impossible since I ticked off everything possible...

Xandorous · 25th July 2005

jsbn,
Sorry, I've cleared my mailbox.

Pablo · 25th July 2005

Hi guys,

My guess is that we are all here for.... the experience, the fun, the learning and sharing of IR.

Night or very low light IR is one other place to experiment and/or be creative in I think.

I am not so quick to be creative; but I remember seeing a photo by "tomcat" (correct me if I am wrong)....
Of his cat sitting near a bar heater (in total darkness).... there was the cat in IR !!

My meaning to this is; I am not too creative as to put some perspective to a simple shot...but....
How about a cooking pot on a regular stove, shot in IR with the lights out ?

How about a shot of someone under a tanning lamp ??

Illuminate a flower with the rays of 1 or 2 infra-red remote controlls ???

Does the sky at night produce any IR ???

Just thoughts guys. Hoping to expand the possabilities of IR...

Cheers guys

TrailsofLife · 26th July 2005

IR is an effect only, good to experiment different expects of it. Just keep in mind, your concept of photography as a hobby, i.e. story telling, artistic expression, asethetic presentation etc.

sumball · 26th July 2005

Originally Posted by Pablo

Does the sky at night produce any IR ???

Pardon me but is there IR if there is no sunlight?

Reno · 26th July 2005

Originally Posted by fuse

thats scary...........

eh... 7th month coming eh... dun like that leh.... I won't want to come out when sun down liao... soooo eerie one....

n0d3 · 26th July 2005

Originally Posted by sumball

Pardon me but is there IR if there is no sunlight?

It is a form of energy emitted by all objects regardless of the ambient light conditions.

tomcat · 26th July 2005

The type of IR that's captured by the sensors of digital cameras are the near-infrared radiation with wavelengths between 700 to 1200nm. These are essentially IR radiation that is reflected off objects. So you do need an external source of near-IR radiation which in normal situations have to come from sunlight. Those IR radiations that are emitted by objects are of much longer wavelengths and are the type of IR that's captured by thermal scanners like those used at the airport during the SARS episode. Our digital cameras are not sensitive at all to such IR radiations and that's why thermal scanners are so expensive. So hot objects that are not glowing visibly would not show up in our digital cameras in total darkness.

Even my modified P200 does not show any image at night unless it is very bright like a lamp. But if I use an infra red heat lamp for illumination, I would get a very good image.

Another way to take IR photos at night would be to use the flash. Besides visible light, the light from our cameras' built-in and external flashes contain a lot of near-IR radiation too and could be used to take IR pics depending on the digital camera's sensitivity to IR.

OlivierC · 31st July 2005

I agree with pablo about the experimentation of Night IR. It could lead to art when knowing what to take (I mean picture).
Just remember that everything begin with experimentation.

I also agree with Max, this is a Hobby but also something new to learn. Also agree with the compo and story telling.

This is just my opinion.

As crazy as it sounds, it should be great to take some pics in a crowded dancing.

19th July 2005	#1
jsbn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Planet Eropagnis Posts: 2,977	IR Photography at night? Wondering if its possible to do IR Photography in low light at night? __________________ "Wonders of the Human Mind. Unfathomable to the highest degree."

20th July 2005	#2
gernie Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 233	=picture deleted= apologies to those who got frighten Last edited by gernie; 24th July 2005 at 03:54 AM.

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gernie Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 233	=pictures deleteed= apologies to those who got frighten Last edited by gernie; 24th July 2005 at 03:54 AM.

20th July 2005	#6
TrailsofLife Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 8,492	hi guys, ir is just a technique, just like long exposure, panning etc. There's more to photography that's important. Like composition, exposure, and the story behind the photo. There's no point shooting ir at night unless you have a story to tell that needs the effect. Cheers Max 2.8 __________________ *trailsoflife photographyblog**

20th July 2005	#7
slaam Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: West Posts: 1,502	hmmm i know my nikon 5400 can do IR with an IR filter but then i get trouble focusing in lowlight cos my camera dun have a helper light. anyone tried night IR with nikon 5400? __________________ my photo project http://naturespies.blogspot.com http://www.dreamstime.com/kevinlam_info

20th July 2005	#4
Francis247 Moderator Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hougang, Sengkang Posts: 5,350	Hi, I am also interested in IR Photography. Just wandering, how did you manage to capture the photo? What setting did you use?

25th July 2005	#10
jsbn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Planet Eropagnis Posts: 2,977	Hehehe... well, I started this topic partly becos of the following reasons: 1) Dis entire IR photography thing is pretty new to me. 2) I went to OCH over the weekend. Since that whole place has got zero lighting, I was wondering aloud if its possible to do IR Photography to capture the 'brothers from the next world'. Unfortunately, I did not have to spend $200 for a 77mm Hoya R72 IR Filter. I did capture something... With just my lens, 300D and Sigma flash on Manual High mode. Using all my logical explainations and left brain to answer the phenomena is near impossible since I ticked off everything possible... __________________ "Wonders of the Human Mind. Unfathomable to the highest degree."

25th July 2005	#11
Xandorous Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 80	jsbn, Sorry, I've cleared my mailbox.

25th July 2005	#12
Pablo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Blue/Green Planet Posts: 1,855	Hi guys, My guess is that we are all here for.... the experience, the fun, the learning and sharing of IR. Night or very low light IR is one other place to experiment and/or be creative in I think. I am not so quick to be creative; but I remember seeing a photo by "tomcat" (correct me if I am wrong).... Of his cat sitting near a bar heater (in total darkness).... there was the cat in IR !! My meaning to this is; I am not too creative as to put some perspective to a simple shot...but.... How about a cooking pot on a regular stove, shot in IR with the lights out ? How about a shot of someone under a tanning lamp ?? Illuminate a flower with the rays of 1 or 2 infra-red remote controlls ??? Does the sky at night produce any IR ??? Just thoughts guys. Hoping to expand the possabilities of IR... Cheers guys __________________ Time, is an effortless construction :)

26th July 2005	#13
TrailsofLife Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 8,492	IR is an effect only, good to experiment different expects of it. Just keep in mind, your concept of photography as a hobby, i.e. story telling, artistic expression, asethetic presentation etc. __________________ *trailsoflife photographyblog**

26th July 2005	#17
tomcat Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,466	The type of IR that's captured by the sensors of digital cameras are the near-infrared radiation with wavelengths between 700 to 1200nm. These are essentially IR radiation that is reflected off objects. So you do need an external source of near-IR radiation which in normal situations have to come from sunlight. Those IR radiations that are emitted by objects are of much longer wavelengths and are the type of IR that's captured by thermal scanners like those used at the airport during the SARS episode. Our digital cameras are not sensitive at all to such IR radiations and that's why thermal scanners are so expensive. So hot objects that are not glowing visibly would not show up in our digital cameras in total darkness. Even my modified P200 does not show any image at night unless it is very bright like a lamp. But if I use an infra red heat lamp for illumination, I would get a very good image. Another way to take IR photos at night would be to use the flash. Besides visible light, the light from our cameras' built-in and external flashes contain a lot of near-IR radiation too and could be used to take IR pics depending on the digital camera's sensitivity to IR. __________________ Fish Pics:http://www.pbase.com/pschia/oddballs IR Pics:http://www.pbase.com/pschia/infra_red

31st July 2005	#18
OlivierC New Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Belgium - Haasrode Posts: 42	I agree with pablo about the experimentation of Night IR. It could lead to art when knowing what to take (I mean picture). Just remember that everything begin with experimentation. I also agree with Max, this is a Hobby but also something new to learn. Also agree with the compo and story telling. This is just my opinion. As crazy as it sounds, it should be great to take some pics in a crowded dancing.