Why did the Mod closed down the sushi Survey?

[Deadpoet]

I am quite puzzled why Markteo's sushi survey was closed by Bluestrike. Here I quote the reason he gace:

"Enough of SURVEY!

CS not the polace for you to conduct SURVEY!

TREAD CLOSED

MOD
Kopitiam"

Well, isn't polls a type of survey? There are numerous polls out there. So why not this one?

Is it the fact that sushi has nothing to do with photography? But in Kopitam, we talked about everything and anything. The topic on the NKF is definately not photography related.

So, what else can we do in Kopitam? Should we submit our thoughts for censorship first?

[mattlock]

yeah that's kinda strange to close the thread.it seemed pretty interesting to me, I don't know if his survey had a commercial purpose but I don't see why the need to close it

[Deadpoet]

Originally Posted by mattlock yeah that's kinda strange to close the thread.it seemed pretty interesting to me, I don't know if his survey had a commercial purpose but I don't see why the need to close it

can I use the words god and mod in the same sentence without being slamed?

Well, probably not, but you all get the drift what I meant.

Oh well, may just go get some sushi for lunch today.

[student]

I will get some sushis with fresh prawns and avocado, and some with kampachi

Some things make me lose my appetite.

Luckily sushis never fail to improve my appetite despite seeing so much nonsense in the past few days, and today of course.

[reno77]

Maybe the mod thinks that sushi is worth less than peanuts...


Ok ok no more peanut jokes from me.

[johnlim]

Who knows? Somebody may use it as a tool for business purposes.

There was a thread posted by a commercial website which asked for photographers' photos for free and in return, posts their photos in their website.
That thread was taken away here because they were making use of this forum as tool for their business.

[Deadpoet]

Originally Posted by johnlim Who knows? Somebody may use it as a tool for business purposes. There was a thread posted by a commercial website which asked for photographers' photos for free and in return, posts their photos in their website. That thread was taken away here because they were making use of this forum as tool for their business.

What commercial purpose? There are lots of commerce going on in CS, just look at the B&S forum and the Photoshoot forum, oh and lets not forgot the MO going on around here.

But reading and re-reading the OP, I don't see any commercial purposes in it, if there are something so hidden, it definately had not manifested itself, and therefore, should not be closed.

Well, here was the original post:

"sushi survey
1. after u get the plate from the belt, do u put the plastic cover back on the belt or on the table?
2. do u lift the plate off the belt, n take a closer look at wat is that sushi, remove the container, sniff it, etc, n den either put on the table if it fancies u or put back on the belt if it isnt appealing?
3. for eg, the belt is moving towards ur direction, n u saw something u like (like vegetable tempura or some fried stuffs) coming towards u, n u intend to take it when it reaches u, soon. but then the person in the table in front has taken that it already. do u get angry?
4. do u hide plates under the table so as to pay lesser?
5. has the cashier ever miscounted the number of plates? did u keep quiet or wat?
6. do u eat only from the belt, or order other food from the menu? wat did u order?
7. do u ever wonder y they don have spoons at the container by the side of the table, only chopsticks? n everytime u have to ask for spoon from the waitress, n sometimes after u ask, they forget to give, n u have to ask again... has it happened to u?
8. do u dip raw salmon or tuna etc into ur hot tea to cook it?
9. do u like the high when u eat too much wasabe n it gets to ur head?
10. do u sometimes see chio waitress n cant concentrate on eating?
n finally, tell us ur fav sushi...."

[KNIGHT ONG]

Think markteo is trying to conduct something like market survey here ??

It is not onli the sushi's thread .. still got others ..

[icarus]

Originally Posted by Deadpoet 8. do u dip raw salmon or tuna etc into ur hot tea to cook it?

this is interesting... maybe i shall try it later at lunch

[Octane69]

Oh... did u guys notice this... There is definately a difference if you wear a skirt or u need to shave every morning.

I mean at the sushi place... if the waiter serving you is a shaver and you are a skirter. You can get away with hell! you can even request to change sitting places after all your food had arrived and half eaten! The waiter will help you change seats, layout the table, make sure everything is in order, and give you new plates and even sometimes replace your half eaten sushi n comp your meal if you know how to work them. This is my observation in certain sushi places. you can ask me if you wanna know more

May not have sushi for lunch today... sometimes its give me indigestion.

[csguest]

Close down the Kopitiam forum. That way, people will spend more time on photography.... :speechless:

[ahbeng]

perhaps Bluestrike can give us follow clubsnapper some explanation?

[Deadpoet]

Back from lunch, the sushiw was delicious.

The mods are really quiet on this one, other than moving this thread down to the feedback section, that csers venture infrequently. Nonetheless, the question remains. Why did the mods closed the original sushi survey thread, for no apparent reason. An attempt to be a diety?

If there is a valid reason, tell us, and we all move on. If there aren't, I would like to know what the admin is going to do!

[weg]

i have not read the original post, by looking at the sample tt you posted above, it seems that it resembles too much like a survey... as in those kind of consumer survey, or surveys for school projects etc that people do... and not the normal kind of polls tt CSers usually come out with.

I guess even though its a kopitiam, the mods cant allow pple to do such surveys and make use of CS as a forum to gather survey results...

[Deadpoet]

Originally Posted by weg i have not read the original post, by looking at the sample tt you posted above, it seems that it resembles too much like a survey... as in those kind of consumer survey, or surveys for school projects etc that people do... and not the normal kind of polls tt CSers usually come out with. I guess even though its a kopitiam, the mods cant allow pple to do such surveys and make use of CS as a forum to gather survey results...

Why not? What about all the polls flying around? And beside, what is the downside to help a fellow CSer to do a survey, if we can help? Do we have to be paid for everything? And yet, we are out there looking for freebies all the time. I just don't understand.

This may be a one person crusade, but I beleive the general public on CS deserves an explanation of this rather abrupt closure of a thread. Again, if the reason makes sense, case close.

[kahheng]

Originally Posted by csguest Close down the Kopitiam forum. That way, people will spend more time on photography.... :speechless:

On the contrary, close down the Feedback forum. Like that people will have more time to spend on idle banter. If anything not happy, just message the mod directly. No need to waste time demanding for public accountability like it's your grandfather's board.

[Larry]

Ok Bluestrike is away but I can probably hazard a good guess as to why he closed it. There has simply been too many polls and surveys circulating around in KPT, most of which simply don't have anything to do with photography. Hence he closed it (if I not wrong).

We have been discussing it internally among the mods but yes it's pending a decision to close down Kopitiam permanently and make CS all about pure photography discussions only. We're still debating the pros and cons but the general consensus is that KPT is simply being abused. We originally envisioned KPT to be the default place for topics which do not fall neatly into the other forums, but since then it's just a dumping ground for banal talk and (dare I say it) nonsensical topics.

And I still do not appreciate insinuations that mods are playing god and abusing authority. CS is not NKF, we do not charge money to run this forum and we certainly are not at your beck and call to explain why this and why that. if you're not happy, feel free to leave. or if you think you can do a better job moderating CS, step up and be recognised. with all the threads going around now about moderators' objectivity, not a single person has stepped forward to volunteer his or her efforts and views. if you're sincere about helping CS to grow, Jason Ho has already extended a open invitation to anyone to be a KPT mod.

CS has always been transparent. feel free to come in and take a look, but understand what we do first before you open your mouth. if not, just shut up and exjoy the free forum & community that the admins has provided and maintained for you.

Larry
Moderator
ClubSNAP.org

[ndroo]

Originally Posted by Larry Ok Bluestrike is away but I can probably hazard a good guess as to why he closed it. There has simply been too many polls and surveys circulating around in KPT, most of which simply don't have anything to do with photography. Hence he closed it (if I not wrong). We have been discussing it internally among the mods but yes it's pending a decision to close down Kopitiam permanently and make CS all about pure photography discussions only. We're still debating the pros and cons but the general consensus is that KPT is simply being abused. We originally envisioned KPT to be the default place for topics which do not fall neatly into the other forums, but since then it's just a dumping ground for banal talk and (dare I say it) nonsensical topics. And I still do not appreciate insinuations that mods are playing god and abusing authority. CS is not NKF, we do not charge money to run this forum and we certainly are not at your beck and call to explain why this and why that. if you're not happy, feel free to leave. or if you think you can do a better job moderating CS, step up and be recognised. with all the threads going around now about moderators' objectivity, not a single person has stepped forward to volunteer his or her efforts and views. if you're sincere about helping CS to grow, Jason Ho has already extended a open invitation to anyone to be a KPT mod. CS has always been transparent. feel free to come in and take a look, but understand what we do first before you open your mouth. if not, just shut up and exjoy the free forum & community that the admins has provided and maintained for you. Larry Moderator ClubSNAP.org

Larry, u da man!

[student]

Originally Posted by Larry ..... with all the threads going around now about moderators' objectivity, not a single person has stepped forward to volunteer his or her efforts and views. if you're sincere about helping CS to grow, Jason Ho has already extended a open invitation to anyone to be a KPT mod.

I am sorry. But these big bold words are so emphatic!

And so emphatically wrong!

Please refer to the thread ""The Moderator is in fact playing god" started by Deadpoet.

In post #64, the Admin offered to members to step forward to be moderators.

In post #154, Zaren put his name to be a volunteer. I do not know what happened after that. But Zaren now had promised to help with critique with every image that is posted specifically for critique.

I had in that thread mentioned that despite the best intention, judgements can be wrong. At the end of the day, the mods will still have to make a decision. And I submit that sometimes the decision will not be to everybody liking.

Errors can be made, and had been made. Such as your very emphatic assertion in this thread.

I had discussed the problems of making judgements in moderating forums with SS in PM. We may not agree, but at least we discussed that judgements can be wrong. I had also recently spoken to another moderator in private, and his reply to me was "to be a moderator and then he will enjoy challenging me". How juvenile!

Less challenges be thrown again to me to be a mod, I will explain that I am right now a mod for another forum. I know that it is not easy. But I advise a little more consideration for differing opinions.

Being emphatically wrong is no fun!

[student]

Originally Posted by Larry not a single person has stepped forward to volunteer his or her efforts and views.

Just a little more effort on my part to offer another view.

Isn't this thread stepping forward to volunteer viewpoints, and this takes mental effort to think and write? Albeit not as a moderator, but contributing viewpoints to moderators to consider? Yes I know that you meant volunteering as a mod.

But do you not think it is good to have other viewpoints made with consideration, effort, and time?