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    Quote Originally Posted by nikkie
    as far as i can recall during my time, the choppers are damn old already. servicing is not as first class as fixed wings aircraft. no load test/fracture checks for skids also, i also worry that rotor will fall apart one day. rappelling.. never that safe anyway.. heli insertion exercise, mis-comm and the chopper lift off before you can unrope yourself! up to you to imagine..

    those who are/were commandos, you can shed some light on the possibilities?
    i am not so sure about the load test for the skids but i believe there are checks done on the heli... i have rappelled from the UH-1H as well as the super puma.
    Actually quite safe from what i remembered....

    1)The safety pin was implemented to prevent accidental release of the LAD.
    The ground despatcher has to comfirm that the rappellers have cleared the hot zone before telling the despatcher on board to release the ropes. For night training, light sticks were used to indicate the rappellers location, to allow easlier ID.

    2) Heli flying off before you unhook yourself can happen but the chances are quite low as the ground despatcher have to give the clearance for the heli despatcher to release the ropes before the heli flies off. The heli do not fly with the ropes. the heli will drop the ropes and the collectors have to collect the ropes after the heli flies away for the next task.
    In the event that you are really sway... You can always release the carabina attached to yr fig 8 torelease yourself from the ropes.

    3) For the rotor blades to drop off....eh. quite difficult.. the pilot may find it too windy and decides to off the fan...

    4) The rappeller must also ensure that his brake hand never leaves his right hand... once that happens, he will freefall but the fig 8 will slow down his speed so that he can execute further actions. The down wash during 'Live task' allow makes it very difficult to judge the distance from ground.
    We can do as many as 5 mock tasks but nothing compares to the real thing.

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    Just wondering, if the helicopter send them straight to General Hospital. Is it better? Sometimes i doubt the eficiency of the SAF Medical Centres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard Ong
    Just wondering, if the helicopter send them straight to General Hospital. Is it better? Sometimes i doubt the eficiency of the SAF Medical Centres.
    It's SOP lah... i believe they need to be assess by the MO before sending to SGH

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    they also need to be stablised first for the airlift.


    Quote Originally Posted by nemesis32
    It's SOP lah... i believe they need to be assess by the MO before sending to SGH

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    any fellow commandos here????

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikonsiao
    i am not so sure about the load test for the skids but i believe there are checks done on the heli... i have rappelled from the UH-1H as well as the super puma.
    Actually quite safe from what i remembered....

    My sentiments...

    It is actually quite safe as far as i rem when i was training ... but that was "ancient times"

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    Quote Originally Posted by kitkat
    My sentiments...

    It is actually quite safe as far as i rem when i was training ... but that was "ancient times"
    were you from the old camp? before they move down to hendon? which coy were you from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikonsiao
    2) Heli flying off before you unhook yourself can happen but the chances are quite low as the ground despatcher have to give the clearance for the heli despatcher to release the ropes before the heli flies off. The heli do not fly with the ropes. the heli will drop the ropes and the collectors have to collect the ropes after the heli flies away for the next task.
    In the event that you are really sway... You can always release the carabina attached to yr fig 8 torelease yourself from the ropes.
    dunno how true is this.. my friend told me the pilot never ever listens to his ground commands.. their (the pilot) theory is "I'm an Officer <Whatever rank> you want me to listen to you <3SG or whatever rank>?" Ego problem?

    There was once when my friend (Guards Engineer Platoon or "Gds Pioneer") was rappelling off the heli and dunno why the heli move (he told me the heli attempted to take off from hover) and he fell straight down with a 30KG ADM on his back, his friend with the chainsaw and fuel also fell straight down. Both injured their backs but mission still carry on.. cos nobody believe they sustained injuries..

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    .. Poor chaps, in the pink of their lives.. My condolence to their families.


    Just a stupid joke.. Maybe SAF should consider all trainings to be done through "virtual reality" & computer simulation? That way, the only injuries is falling down the chair and catching a cold in the aircon room? Haha..
    Last edited by eric69; 15th July 2005 at 11:49 AM.

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