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    Haven't been following this but i heard Mrs. Goh Chok Tong's new nickname is Mdm. Peanut,based on her comments on Durai's pay... haha

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    Nisa
    If you can please read the news papers and ponder on what has been reported.

    I do not have an issue with the organization, the issue is with its management. Nor do I have an issue with you but your posting sound a little out of touch with reality.

    For a charity set up to help kidney patients -- with 260mil of reserves it cannot even handle more than 44% of the people needing treatment. Money was donated to help save lives does that mean this 56% ( a majority) has the means to pay for treatment ? I assume that certain number will not get treatment and will die but what is worse is that if KDF with smaller resources actually handles the bulk of this 56%. From the numbers alone it is clear that NKF has to rethink what are its priorities and its goals - fund raising is important using the funds raised is even more important. No point telling us not enough money so some will die because of this lack. If I was being strict a 44% servicing rate does not sound like the sign of an effective organization.

    If they cannot tackle their own task, they should confine themselves to completing their job before trying to tackle cancer care which is the area which Singapore Cancer Society addresses. Or does NKF also sees a need to build up reservers for cancer patients too ? Already we see the NKF cancer show clashing with the Singapore Cancer Society's cancer show.

    Like our Minster of Health says giving for charity should go on, it is for the donor to decide after checking which one to give to. Full text go read the papers.






    Quote Originally Posted by Nisa
    NKF is run by human beings. It's not perfect, I agree.
    But i feel they are handling the donations as well as they can.
    I see plenty of NKF programs to help people, esp this new program for cancer patients is quite inspiring for me. And i do know that cancer is another expensive illness. If I do not get help from org like NKF, where can I turn to then?
    I disagree he earns too much, I agree that he should have come out straight with his pay package.

    So which charity do u donate ur time to?
    Can i get u to donate stuffs this coming christmas for some kids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wai
    that's what i want to say too...

    stop giving them a cent to wake up their ideas

    they will not collapse and patient will not suffer because they are rich enough to self-sustain

    there are poorer organisation out there who are in immdiately need of money...so no point make the rich richer when the poor is getting poorer

    GO TO YOUR NEAREST BANK TO TERMINATE GIRO NOW
    I had done what I could. The onus is onto the people whom I'd asked to cut or not.

    However, as long as there are nice people out there, this entire fisaco will never end.

    Reality will only hit home when u run into what others are encountering... to be rejected and spurred in whom u'd believed in and supported. Thus comes the chinese proverb (loosely translated) "Nice people gets struck by lightning".

    For what's worth, +1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nisa
    call me silly, call me foolish.
    I have great hopes for this world.
    Its always good to hold hopes. Kinda like seeing the silver lining in the grey cloud thing.

    Unfortunately, the silver lining u see might juz be the incoming nuclear bomb to destroy all life on this sad little planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terence
    Haven't been following this but i heard Mrs. Goh Chok Tong's new nickname is Mdm. Peanut,based on her comments on Durai's pay... haha
    but not a single word of PEANUT is mentioned in all S'pore newspapers today despite the fact that PEANUT is the most mentioned words in S'pore cybernet the last 3 days.....hmmmm, make me wonder who has that power to.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by swing123
    but not a single word of PEANUT is mentioned in all S'pore newspapers today despite the fact that PEANUT is the most mentioned words in S'pore cybernet the last 3 days.....hmmmm, make me wonder who has that power to.......
    Peanut sellers.

    Well they called it Golden Nuggets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swing123
    but not a single word of PEANUT is mentioned in all S'pore newspapers today despite the fact that PEANUT is the most mentioned words in S'pore cybernet the last 3 days.....hmmmm, make me wonder who has that power to.......
    The all mighty pen of SPH's Chief Editor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nisa
    hey i want to get a return on the good deeds i had done mah! don't say,how people know?

    Ok then that your choice U can continue to do it. Hope oneday u can receive a medal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nisa
    I have great hopes for this world.

    I believe everyone do so. Cos we are still breathing
    Dreams at Photoaid! Contact me, pls!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellery
    Nisa
    If you can please read the news papers and ponder on what has been reported.

    I do not have an issue with the organization, the issue is with its management. Nor do I have an issue with you but your posting sound a little out of touch with reality.

    For a charity set up to help kidney patients -- with 260mil of reserves it cannot even handle more than 44% of the people needing treatment. Money was donated to help save lives does that mean this 56% ( a majority) has the means to pay for treatment ? I assume that certain number will not get treatment and will die but what is worse is that if KDF with smaller resources actually handles the bulk of this 56%. From the numbers alone it is clear that NKF has to rethink what are its priorities and its goals - fund raising is important using the funds raised is even more important. No point telling us not enough money so some will die because of this lack. If I was being strict a 44% servicing rate does not sound like the sign of an effective organization.

    If they cannot tackle their own task, they should confine themselves to completing their job before trying to tackle cancer care which is the area which Singapore Cancer Society addresses. Or does NKF also sees a need to build up reservers for cancer patients too ? Already we see the NKF cancer show clashing with the Singapore Cancer Society's cancer show.

    Like our Minster of Health says giving for charity should go on, it is for the donor to decide after checking which one to give to. Full text go read the papers.
    I do read the news and i do ponder on what is written.

    out of touch with reality? Might be the medication i am taking

    I do not have an issue with the organization as well, but i do agree that the organization needs to be "more" transparent (is this the right word?) to the public.

    44 % = how many patients?
    56% = how many patients?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupi Guy
    I believe everyone do so. Cos we are still breathing
    Thank God for little favors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tupi Guy
    Ok then that your choice U can continue to do it. Hope oneday u can receive a medal.
    can i have one made up of peanut butter with chocolate swirls?

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    Can donate me golden tap?

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    I prefer cashew nut by the way......

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    Peanut soup is good for the soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hommie
    I prefer cashew nut by the way......
    Horeee I cancel my GIRO liaow.
    Now I am going to use the money to buy myself some peanuts.
    Cashew one lah plus Tiger Beer serve by AUNTY TIGER!!!
    Now I prefer donate money to them cause they serve me well

    NKF, you can KISS my #*s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nisa
    can i have one made up of peanut butter with chocolate swirls?
    No, no, no,......

    Only peanuts! For chocolate toppings you need to donate more!

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    Default The Ministers had spoken!!

    http://www.asia1.com.sg/st/st_20050714_328403.html


    Health Minister Khaw Boon Wan told The Straits Times yesterday the NKF must provide more information and explain its actions to regain the public's confidence.


    Politicians like MP Chong Weng Chiew echoed Mr Khaw's call for greater transparency, in particular, its expenditure 'on publicity, manpower, administration and patients'. He also wants to know how the NKF assesses patients for subsidies, as he had been approached many times by kidney-failure patients who had been rejected by the NKF.


    Non-constituency MP Steve Chia said yesterday Mr Durai should resign as 'he has lost his moral authority to ask for money'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agus
    Horeee I cancel my GIRO liaow.
    Now I am going to use the money to buy myself some peanuts.
    Cashew one lah plus Tiger Beer serve by AUNTY TIGER!!!
    Now I prefer donate money to them cause they serve me well

    NKF, you can KISS my #*s
    I hate to queue up at the bank. Any other way of cancelling my GIRO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redstorm
    Peanut soup is good for the soul.
    I like the cheap 80c china brand peanut soup... wonder if Durai likes peanut soup?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wai
    http://www.asia1.com.sg/st/st_20050714_328403.html


    Health Minister Khaw Boon Wan told The Straits Times yesterday the NKF must provide more information and explain its actions to regain the public's confidence.


    Politicians like MP Chong Weng Chiew echoed Mr Khaw's call for greater transparency, in particular, its expenditure 'on publicity, manpower, administration and patients'. He also wants to know how the NKF assesses patients for subsidies, as he had been approached many times by kidney-failure patients who had been rejected by the NKF.


    Non-constituency MP Steve Chia said yesterday Mr Durai should resign as 'he has lost his moral authority to ask for money'.
    Finally, I was wondering what had happen to them...

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