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  1. #1281

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    Quote Originally Posted by judeseah
    haha!!!

    very well written.

    can be friend?
    eh walao! relac ah! this is not IRC leh!

    teEhEEz~! iNtr0 plZ? A/S/L?

  2. #1282

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbn
    We have the Rainbow club, we have Singapore Cancer Foundation, we have Breast Cancer Foundation.

    Since NKF's speciality is to provide care for Kidney paitents and there are other more specialised foundations in Singapore doing Cancer research and after-service care, why duplicate the functions of another society when ur speciality is not in this area in the first place?

    The big question remains.
    Do these organizations have the abilities of NKF to get such wild spread of awareness to the public?

    I know Rainbow club, i voluntered with them before. They are trying their best, and it's adequate.

    And why not use NKF's funds to help out another group of people who are getting adequate help? or should NKF's funds be used for collecting interest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nisa
    of course i benefit from NKF. I get comfort that i donate money to them, and people get help from it. They might not be able to save all, but they do help.

    Yeah right, you forget to add that you also get comfort from the fact that your donation goes towards paying his 12 months bonuses, 1st class air ticket, $990 tap, blah blah blah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by student
    Of course you can stand where you choose to stand. This is democracy!

    Democracy allows for a lot of nonsense, including standing anywhere one choose to stand.

    Please do not take this as an attack on your choices to do what you feel is right. I applaud your care and concern for the less fortunate. You have a much more noble attitude than many of us here.

    There are many ways to do things. There are some who feel that exercising some "wisdom" in how to channel their money is important. They do not want their money to be wasted in frivolous ways. But some, like you, do not mind some of your money going to the toilet of the CEO. Others do not. I do not want my money to fund the CEO's personal mercedes. It does not matter even if the board had agreed to this (I cetainly would like to see the employment contract!).

    I want to maximise the utilisation of my money. So I exercise a little more care. But you are entitled to give your money to anyone and allow that person to do anything with your money, including having a nice toilet.

    NKF will not collapse if money stops coming in today. Even if there is ZERO income for the next few years, the patients will not suffer the slightest bit, unless of course NKF is vindictive. In which case they should cease to exist.

    But sending NKF a strong signal to mange your money properly is very important. It will be an iimportant wake-up call. Otherwise they will capitalise on attitudes like yours to continue doing what they were doing.
    *APPLAUSE*

    Very well said, student!! I can't write better than this.. If you're student, time for me to enroll kindergarten!

    But sending NKF a strong signal to mange your money properly is very important. It will be an iimportant wake-up call. Otherwise they will capitalise on attitudes like yours to continue doing what they were doing.

    I concur.. send strong signal to every single charity organisation in Singapore as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffle
    we all can see where you're coming from, but what kind of a line was that last one anyway? some underlying meaning there? perhaps a subtle indication that makes it seem that YOU'RE the "right" ones?

    that's just low.
    Nah... Considering the fact that I'm earning salt serving the country and a CEO of a social welfare and health organisation who's earning peanuts, I don't think I'm low.

    That's juz my 2 cents buddy.
    "Wonders of the Human Mind. Unfathomable to the highest degree."

  6. #1286

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    heyhey ask everyone here...anyone ever rec'd/heard of a brochure or letter or something to aging seniors/elders asking to opt in their entire CPF to N*F when they pass on..or maybe in that line..

    anyone? this is new to me cos i today just heard about this.

  7. #1287

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    Making the patients pay 80% (24 mil out of 30 mil) of the cost is not charity...it's a bloody 20% DISCOUNT.

    I think I go CP they may give me even more discount

    Even commercial companies, like SP Services give vouchers to those who can't pay for utilities and help them work out installment plans so that they can continue getting electricity and water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redstorm
    I will be watching! Hahaha, not to donate but to see how many ppl still want to contribute to their glowing reserve.
    And I shall get back my bucks worth by watching the entertainment free.

    Its gonna be tough for the artistics.. they will look very stupid to urge.. "pls call 1900-xxxx to help the patients.. they need you!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupi Guy
    Hi Nisa,

    Charity is done out from goodwill and it shd not be a challenge.

    And personally i feel that, when someone have done a charity or any good course, do he or she need to keep telling what he or she has done??? That wun be good course anymore as they only want to show off, am i right?

    Anyway, the one who giving are the benifit too cos they can see what have they become. It always the most fortunate to be a giver.
    of course charity should be done out of goodwill. That's why so many people donate to charities, it's never about challenges.

    I personally think that Mr Durai has not been telling the whole world about his work. I don't think anyone in general public really know who is running NKF, till this whole thing come out.

    And i can never be a giver. I admit whatever i give, i make sure i take back in other forms.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hommie
    Yes. He admitted to it. It was not declared to the board of NKF.
    Really? i did not see it. I hope he will be penalized for this.

    Quote Originally Posted by redstorm
    Yeah right, you forget to add that you also get comfort from the fact that your donation goes towards paying his 12 months bonuses, 1st class air ticket, $990 tap, blah blah blah.
    oh yeah! i do get comforted by the fact that people are well paid for the efforts they are giving everyday.

  10. #1290

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    Quote Originally Posted by itisnottheendorg
    heyhey ask everyone here...anyone ever rec'd/heard of a brochure or letter or something to aging seniors/elders asking to opt in their entire CPF to N*F when they pass on..or maybe in that line..

    anyone? this is new to me cos i today just heard about this.
    anyone?..

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    Quote Originally Posted by deslim27
    And I shall get back my bucks worth by watching the entertainment free.

    Its gonna be tough for the artistics.. they will look very stupid to urge.. "pls call 1900-xxxx to help the patients.. they need you!"
    I'd rather they say "Come down and give the money to the patients personally."

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    Quote Originally Posted by student
    But sending NKF a strong signal to mange your money properly is very important. It will be an iimportant wake-up call. Otherwise they will capitalise on attitudes like yours to continue doing what they were doing.
    Unfortunately, its on the lines of playing with ppl's sympathy to open up their hearts (and wallets).

    Cashing in on ppl's weak spot is an old but effective trick. And when used properly, will divide ppl 2 ways, which we are seeing it happen right now.

    Unfortunate I have to say.
    "Wonders of the Human Mind. Unfathomable to the highest degree."

  13. #1293

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    Quote Originally Posted by judeseah
    i once helped out( :embarass: just once) at kampong senang,
    the head gave up her 5 figure pay work to help cancer patients.
    its holistic style of healing.

    think if u r keen in donating gifts,
    regardless of season,
    they will accept.

    pm me if u want the contact.
    got to dig it out.
    I am sorry, which organization is that?

  14. #1294

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    Is this site being taken off the web or it too busy ???

    http://www.petitiononline.com/nkfs/petition.html

  15. #1295

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbn
    Unfortunately, its on the lines of playing with ppl's sympathy to open up their hearts (and wallets).

    Cashing in on ppl's weak spot is an old but effective trick. And when used properly, will divide ppl 2 ways, which we are seeing it happen right now.

    Unfortunate I have to say.
    It works on Nisa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nisa
    oh yeah! i do get comforted by the fact that people are well paid for the efforts they are giving everyday.
    Money from ardent supporters like you!!

  17. #1297

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    Quote Originally Posted by student
    Of course you can stand where you choose to stand. This is democracy!

    Democracy allows for a lot of nonsense, including standing anywhere one choose to stand.

    Please do not take this as an attack on your choices to do what you feel is right. I applaud your care and concern for the less fortunate. You have a much more noble attitude than many of us here.

    There are many ways to do things. There are some who feel that exercising some "wisdom" in how to channel their money is important. They do not want their money to be wasted in frivolous ways. But some, like you, do not mind some of your money going to the toilet of the CEO. Others do not. I do not want my money to fund the CEO's personal mercedes. It does not matter even if the board had agreed to this (I cetainly would like to see the employment contract!).

    I want to maximise the utilisation of my money. So I exercise a little more care. But you are entitled to give your money to anyone and allow that person to do anything with your money, including having a nice toilet.

    NKF will not collapse if money stops coming in today. Even if there is ZERO income for the next few years, the patients will not suffer the slightest bit, unless of course NKF is vindictive. In which case they should cease to exist.

    But sending NKF a strong signal to mange your money properly is very important. It will be an iimportant wake-up call. Otherwise they will capitalise on attitudes like yours to continue doing what they were doing.
    I don't see this as an attack of my choice, but rather would see it as an exchange of views. I agree that democracy is here for me to stand on what I believe. I disagree however, "Democracy allows for a lot of nonsense". With democracy, only would I know what others are thinking of. and how I can seek a balance for my existence in this world.

    I care where my money go to. I also know that i cannot expect someone to just run an organization like NKF by getting peanuts (that word again) for it.

  18. #1298

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbn
    Unfortunately, its on the lines of playing with ppl's sympathy to open up their hearts (and wallets).

    Cashing in on ppl's weak spot is an old but effective trick. And when used properly, will divide ppl 2 ways, which we are seeing it happen right now.

    Unfortunate I have to say.

    It never a old trick. It being use everyday in our daily life.
    Dreams at Photoaid! Contact me, pls!

  19. #1299

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nisa
    I can seek a balance for my existence in this world.
    There is never a balance point in this world (reality)
    Dreams at Photoaid! Contact me, pls!

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    Quote Originally Posted by itisnottheendorg
    heyhey ask everyone here...anyone ever rec'd/heard of a brochure or letter or something to aging seniors/elders asking to opt in their entire CPF to N*F when they pass on..or maybe in that line..

    anyone? this is new to me cos i today just heard about this.

    I did I did!!!

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