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    Buried among the post is a link to this :

    http://www.livejournal.com/users/angeliatay/246524.html


    that is well written by Angelia Tay and says:

    As an ex-staff of NKF and (and ironically now a staff at SPH), I can't help but be bothered by the lawsuit news. I've written about my work experience at NKF before and I stayed away from the 'controversial issues' on purpose because I was trying to focus more on the plight of the patients whom I had to deal with on a regular basis and the difficulties I faced then.



    My first thoughts were..what was Durai thinking of when he decided to sue SPH? Did he not know what this media giant can do to him and his beloved organisation? Or was he thinking he was beyond reproach and that no one could touch him? I've always thought that NKF's cause is good.. Its aim has always been and I believe still is, to help the dialysis patients and they went a different route from the other non-profit organisation by engaging the media and public in a big way. There was a time when NKF was like those other organisation, had to scrimp and watch their spendings & overheads..But as it became more successful in it's fundraising, it became more lax and I'm sure Durai's sense of importance and ego also grew accordingly. He'd assumed he would come out victorious again and boy was he wrong.

    I have no issues with TT Durai's pay. I feel that he is entitled to his 25k per month salary (even though i was paid pittance when i was working there :P). And to be fair, he has earned every penny of it. He is one of the most hands-on & hardworking CEO ard and those who'd worked at NKF will acknowledge that. But, like many..I think the bonus paid out to him is way too much. And he isn't the only one getting that kind of bonus..so are many of his senior management staff, some of whom, are probably earning more than 150k per year. But the fact of the matter was that he lied. He lied about how long the reserves can last for, about the first class airfares (which we all knew abt) and deceived many people along the way.

    I've also always felt that more could have been done for the patients especially since NKF has so much reserve. Having worked in the department that was in charge of the welfare of the patients, I had problems with many of the practices of the organisation especially with regards to patients. I don't want to go to much into it but it was mainly to do with how the fees was determined. One of my main gripe then were patients who had insurance coverage, either by their company or through Medishield. In such cases, NKF would charge the maximum of $2400 for their fees. However, such coverage usually has a cap of up to a certain amt and by charging them such fees, it would mean that the insurance money would run dry soon. This disturbed me because dialysis is a lifelong treatment and by doing so, the patients would lose out in the long run.

    During my stinct there, I was asked to terminate a patient dialysis treatment because he was didn't pay his fees for 6 months. It was an order made from the top and I had no choice but to pen the letter informing him of his last date of dialysis. Before that, I was like a debt collector, calling him and his family every other day to chase for payment. Also, I'd been trying in vain to find suitable jobs for the patient and his wife but they turned down all jobs offered to them. There was nothing much I could do then but to request for their fees to be lowered and debt to be waived but it was rejected. The case was soon brought to the press knowledge and the public soon came to know abt the patient's 'dismissal' from NKF. And this was what happened..

    (from TNP, Aug 5, 2000)
    NKF: We're sorry, it was our mistake

    PROCEDURES not followed.

    A bad error. And the National Kidney Foundation is sorry for making a mistake. And for sending Mr Yap a letter informing him that his dialysis sessions were being terminated.

    "In this particular incident, the staff involved did not follow the procedure and the staff have been severely reprimanded," Mr Alwyn Lim, vice-chairman of the NKF, told The New Paper.

    He added: "It was a human error on the part of the staff and I have asked for a review of the department because it's essential that serious mistakes like this not be repeated."

    More importantly, the NKF has amended its termination procedures.Now, Mr Lim will serve as the final check. He explained: "Whatever the staff recommends comes to me for final assessment before it goes to the termination stage. It automatically triggers off the appeals panel."


    I was freaking pissed that my dept was sorta made a scapegoat as a result even though I was merely following instruction to terminate the patient's dialysis. It wasn't me alone. My HOD was 'blamed' too..and she'd served NKF faithfully for 8 years. It was after this incident that I knew I had to leave the organisation soon as I'd became disillusioned and didn't like what I was doing anymore. So no one was surprised when I finally left the company. Anyway, I'm digressing here..

    I don't know how NKF can ever survive this PR disaster. I'm sure many organisations and donors will be withdrawing their support soon and people would be demanding that NKF's licence as a profit organisation be revoked. But what then of the patients? And what's worse is that the other charities may lose out too as people becomes more cynical and refuses to donate as a result..

    Edit : There's now an online petition asking for the removal of TT Durai as CEO of NKF


    After reading this, your blood pressure goes up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wai
    then dont spread the rumour here...speculation is dangerous
    What we have seen here is something those who have bothered to read between the lines would have seen a long time ago.

    The insensitivity of the elites to the common man, and let me say that more and more people who belong to elite are also feeling pissed with the state of affairs.

    Where has governance as a duty to the people gone to?Isn't service to society the first and foremost fundamental role of the state and those that work with the state?
    We live in an age when unnecessary things are our only necessities. - Oscar Wilde

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    a business minded company is out to make profits, then 1 can justify for asking for more reward based on results delivered

    a org like such should be concentrating on cost efficient and taking effective measures to ensure that more people can benefit from this fund.

    wats good of keeping the money , when people's plea for assistance is denied

  4. #1184

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    Warning: Contains adult language. Parental Guidance recommended.

    See here for damn funny read of the NKF saga.

    Preview:
    "KNNBCCB!!! I just read the newspaper that the boss of the National Kidneys Foundation earn $25,000 one month, and last 3 year got 10 to 12 months bonus!!!

    Yao jiu ling ling your cha* ch** by* lah!......"

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    Suddenly remember this phrase, 'Bites the hand that rocks the cradle'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobbesyeo
    Warning: Contains adult language. Parental Guidance recommended.

    See here for damn funny read of the NKF saga.

    Preview:
    "KNNBCCB!!! I just read the newspaper that the boss of the National Kidneys Foundation earn $25,000 one month, and last 3 year got 10 to 12 months bonus!!!

    Yao jiu ling ling your cha* ch** by* lah!......"
    i have another.
    http://cheekybynature.blogspot.com/
    your link not working.


    NKF news hit Reuters.
    http://today.reuters.com/news/newsAr...CHARITY-DC.XML

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohgui
    nothing wrong for them to have money in reserves to continue operations for a couple of decades. but they just shouldn't lie and deceive the public into thinking that there is never enough and make them donate more.

    this is making a mockery out of charity. screw them!!!
    I agree with you deceiving issue.. That's why I support the petition whether it will work or not.

    Can't say it is wrong to have large reserves.. but we can channel the just-in-case-probably-never-need reserves for better use? I'm sure there are some other charities need this large sum of $170 million. More educational funds, orphan/elderly funds, handicap funds, cancer fund.... you name it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drudkh
    i have another.
    http://cheekybynature.blogspot.com/
    your link not working.


    NKF news hit Reuters.
    http://today.reuters.com/news/newsAr...CHARITY-DC.XML
    Wahahha
    We live in an age when unnecessary things are our only necessities. - Oscar Wilde

  9. #1189

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    Taken from Reuters:

    "Cut the act! That's blood and sweat dripping from your golden tap," wrote Peter See Keng Siong on the petition, found on www.petitiononline.com/nkfs/petition.html.

    Catcy eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drudkh
    i have another.
    http://cheekybynature.blogspot.com/
    your link not working.
    Try here.
    http://rockson.blogspot.com/
    (Warning: Very Adult language used here.)

    I think the forum auto censor the language, hence link didn't work.

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    When i go to the petition site, it is already 18000+, from what i first saw during lunch (2000+). Going at this rate, by sunrise, i think it will hit 25K+

    And how i wish i can have just half a peanut. A quarter also can. pls.... "Peanut" ... the most non-wise comment from the supposingly one of the wisest lady in Singapore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drudkh
    i have another.
    http://cheekybynature.blogspot.com/
    your link not working.
    LOL!

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    i think the petition page got some problems loading. they took it down?
    Mythbusters - the bigger the explosion, the better it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohgui
    i think the petition page got some problems loading. they took it down?
    Probably just VERY heavy traffic

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohgui
    i think the petition page got some problems loading. they took it down?
    probably overloaded... when its up you could probably see google ads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mohgui
    i think the petition page got some problems loading. they took it down?
    Overloaded I guess.. it happens a few times for less 12 hours.

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    This is outrageous ! Not only the CEO must be out but at least all bonus he recieved pass 3 or 5 years to be return to NKF to help those who in need. And Media Corp too. Please dont show anymore of these NKF donation on TV . They got enough money to last till 2040.

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    I will convert all my donation to 4D n TOTO now... try to get those peanuts too.. hehe!! hahaha!!!!

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    Time to stop donating till 2040!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutss
    ....... but at least all bonus he recieved pass 3 or 5 years to be return to NKF to help those who in need.
    That's not going to happen lah .......

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