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    No lah the 'you' didnt mean you...it was supposed to mean anyone whoses reading this thread and happen to be viewing the signatures....I was also having my window on just now at the signatures and reading but I have closed it when I realised that some others might have difficulties in accessing it...

    By the way...what is it about Durex?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lavenderlilz
    I have also heard of somebody who earns $4k a month and you'd think of course he should be rejected. He couldn't afford the treatment as he has EIGHT (8) family members to support. I am given the impression that the organisation operates mechanically (like a robot) and they don't give due consideration to exceptional cases.
    Stepford Wives much?

    But then robots don't need to be paid peanuts

    I want my peanuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenten
    Glad that you also noticed it ....... because some folks are just too easily swayed by the media ..... this we must not forget.
    Sorry.. still in office.. care to tell what is it all about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deslim27
    Sorry.. still in office.. care to tell what is it all about?
    Think one patient working in one of the centres came out and speak in support of their CEO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boroangel
    Think one patient working in one of the centres came out and speak in support of their CEO.
    You mean the patient is a staff of NKF?

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    Yes I think so if I read the chinese words correctly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by boroangel
    Yes I think so if I read the chinese words correctly...
    But what does that gonna do with Zentan's comment about swaying by media?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellery
    Its all relative ainit ? If a monkey tried to eat 600,000 plus pea nuts in a year I am sure that would be either one dead or very sick monkey.

    If 600,000 buck is peanuts thant what is real money ? This is a charitable organization that has no real income - the main inflow of funds is from donations and in this organization's case - payments from the clients. It is not a profit generating company so prudence has to be taken in how much they pay people becuase each dollar paid is mostly from donor funds- their statements in the past indicate that they recruit from China, India ect to get cheaper mediacal staff ok if this is ture then there so be some form a wage restrain grin so we should take it take 600,000 is a restrained salary amount it could have been more. Now if this was an SME ( a profit orientated business), then how the hell much you pay the ceo is of no real importance at first glance. But most of the corporate news in the last 12 months world wide points to a fact that if CEO salaries are linke to the wrong performance index, the company is normally the one that suffers. Since decisions and directions taken will be for sure to be favour the improvement of those indicators be the share price or sales performance target or even net profit line to make sure that by time to approval CEO pay the figures look golden. Ahhh Enron ring any bells ?

    It is disturbing that NKF is being view as a business = why else the view that if they can haul in a reserve of several hundred millions, that means its ok to pay the CEO 600K per year - what of the board - I wonder what is the total payout for the CEO and the board of directors and the top 5 other staff memebers. Given the facts so far revealed , this should be a very interesting figure to analayze.


    What is disturbing is the figures cited in parliment NKF only services what 44% of the kidney patients and this has slipped from what 55%. If they collect so much and cover the limited number, I would not want to run an efficiency or effectivness audit on them. Where then do those that NKF failed to service turn to ? With their resources can they not do a better job ? If they cannot why do they need so much additional resources each year.

    AHh yes the world class cancer programe - NKF's charter goal is kidney failure cases not cancer - there is a Singapore Cancer Society that is chartered to cancer cases. Or is NKF collecting now on Singapore Cancer Society's behalf ?
    apologies to quote the whole posts.

    The abuse of public fund aside, what i think the biggest sin NKF mgt has committed - they shouldn't be projecting a short of cash image and keep going for donation drive while they sit on S$200mil of reserve. If public is made aware and informed, at least we would know then to channel the money to other charity organisations that are more in need of cash to carry out their mission. Remember, there are a lot of other organisations out there to help the needy, not just NKF.

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    the media is downplaying the issue bigtime...read the straits times better

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    Quote Originally Posted by deslim27
    But what does that gonna do with Zentan's comment about swaying by media?
    I am saying that the media will soon (hypnotise you) make you forget this ugly episode .....if you are not vigilant .......

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    Quote Originally Posted by boroangel
    Think one patient working in one of the centres came out and speak in support of their CEO.
    of cos must support lah.. later lose job how?

    brilliant tactic to pull at the heartstrings of singaporeans again.

    I find that most heartlanders in s'pore are actually quite kind hearted and they are the ones who donate generously to all the charitable clauses but now that the trust has been misplaced, these people start to use the same old tactics all over again.

    ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT, WELL DONE NKF!

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    Just wondering aloud ..why did NKF CEO withdraw the suit?? maybe he's revealing too much and if he goes on, more people might get implicated. IMHO the CEO and NKF Board of Directors should resign. There don't seems to have any governace. What a disgrace!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swing123
    apologies to quote the whole posts.

    The abuse of public fund aside, what i think the biggest sin NKF mgt has committed - they shouldn't be projecting a short of cash image and keep going for donation drive while they sit on S$200mil of reserve. If public is made aware and informed, at least we would know then to channel the money to other charity organisations that are more in need of cash to carry out their mission. Remember, there are a lot of other organisations out there to help the needy, not just NKF.
    $200 million tax free ....... with compound interests some more ...... too bad the management staff so greedy ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by tokieda
    the media is downplaying the issue bigtime...read the straits times better
    Mediacorp still got a NKF show to run... that y...

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    mediacrops artists have been had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxonline
    The TCS star maybe happy cos ithey are pretty sick n tired.....almost do 1 charity show every other 2 months and they have to act breathless in the aftershow interview.....give them a break la.
    11 shows last year
    13 shows this year

    http://tw.news.yahoo.com/050712/43/21zdk.html

    that's an average of one show per month

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenten
    I am saying that the media will soon (hypnotise you) make you forget this ugly episode .....if you are not vigilant .......
    How can I forget the person who cheated my money for his expensive tap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deslim27
    How can I forget the person who cheated my money for his expensive tap?
    your statement is politically and legally incorrect....that said person didn't cheat your money for his expensive tap; the said expensive tap in question has been replaced and was never been fitted......that said person only cheat your money to buy PEANUT

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    [/QUOTE]
    T.T. Durai: If he is an educated person, if he knows the use of the particular office, for what purpose, he may probably think it is something reasonable.[/QUOTE]

    now i m offended.
    he is saying i m not educated.

    use of the particular office, blah, blah blah...

    what's that got to do with if the item is expansive?

    the item should be compared to its peer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by swing123
    your statement is politically and legally incorrect....that said person didn't cheat your money for his expensive tap; the said expensive tap in question has been replaced and was never been fitted......that said person only cheat your money to buy PEANUT
    LOL! Perhaps I should send him a good tin to keep the peanuts.. must keep fresh you know!

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