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    - Patient numbers were inflated
    - reserve stood at 262 million
    - reserve can last for 30 years, not 3 years
    - They spent 30+ millions on paitents BUT patients still have to fougt out 24+ millions
    - NKF only "serve" 44% of kidney paitent in Singapore
    - Private car of CEo maintained by NKF
    - CEO have other directorships
    - private relationship with fellow NKF supporter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nisa
    u forgot the most important thing, generate the same amount of awareness and donatation for NKF as it is getting now.
    And get paid $25k a month plus another $25k in bonus plus business class travel and golden tap and falsify the numbers of patients and having his wife's car road tax paid by the donation.

    Yes, why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupi Guy
    This is not a joke abt this issues. But using this to making fun of ppl?

    Yes, they might misuse or abuse the fund. But after all we donate to those who needs not to whatever CEO or blah blah......if they really did, let the authorities deal with them.

    Imagine, if all of you haf cancel or wun donate anymore in the future becos of these irresponsible? What happen to those needy? They will suffer not those CEO.

    I am not rich nor i am a saint. But i always try to help withing my reach. Even a cent is more than enough that where thoughts count.

    Btw, i will donate your "camera fund" only when u are one of them. It not a joke abt cancer paitient. Have u seen one? And taking care of one? Get a life my friend!

    And i always believe in KARMA.
    they have 30+ years of reserves to last them, 6+ if they keep spending this way, i do not think the patients are in any immediate danger now.
    if you really concern there are other charities to adopt and help.

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    to think that those poor TCS artistes sweat blood to do daredevil stunts like walking on knifes, playing with fire, etc and in the end the ceo laffs all the way to the bank....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belle&Sebastain
    they have 30+ years of reserves to last them, 6+ if they keep spending this way, i do not think the patients are in any immediate danger now.
    if you really concern there are other charities to adopt and help.

    not to worry, i knw what i am doing

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    How about a "Mr Davinder Singh for President" petition instead ....
    always the Light, .... always.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user12343
    to think that those poor TCS artistes sweat blood to do daredevil stunts like walking on knifes, playing with fire, etc and in the end the ceo laffs all the way to the bank....
    Come on dude, don't you think they don't get anything in the end? Ask those who are TCS artistes relatives lah? Don't forget, they are well trained actors & actresses, you know?
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    "A letter written to The Straits Times in April last year by the chairman of its Children's Medical Fund board, Dr Gerard Chuah, had claimed that the NKF had 3,000 patients.

    Mr Singh pointed out the number had been overstated by about 1,000.

    Mr Durai said he realised there was a mistake only after the letter had been published, but had not corrected it.

    Mr Singh asked: 'So in addition to the travel and the reserves, we now know that even the number of patients that were being put out as being treated by NKF was erroneous and remains uncorrected; right?'

    'Yes,' Mr Durai replied.

    When asked why he had done nothing to correct it, he said: 'It was an oversight. I did not think it was of material importance. The donor gives us money because of the brand of the NKF and I did not think it was so important at that point of time to correct this error.'

    Mr Singh suggested that the number had been inflated to create a false impression of need. In fact, according to Mr Khaw's reply to Parliament last year, NKF's 'share' of kidney patients in Singapore had dropped, from 54 per cent in 1999 to 44 in 2003.

    Mr Durai maintained that NKF had not deliberately set out to create a false impression to attract more funds. He also disagreed that the failure of the NKF management to correct the errors amounted to mismanagement.

    'Whatever we did was to grow the programmes,' he said. 'We did it not with deliberateness to deceive anyone at all.' "

    http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/fre...28263,00.html?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_Yeo
    what will happen after this?
    Let's see loh...CSers, just cast your votes to see if you'll still donate to NKF.

    I'm pretty eager to see how the response of the next NKF cancer show will turn out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbn
    Honestly, I think we shld at the very least, send a thank you note to the journalist as well as Davinder Singh.
    Geez.

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    Drop the beer, I think Davinder dun drink.
    And how would you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nisa
    I would like to know who would be so noble to step in the shoes of NKF CEO putting in all the work and getting peanuts for it. Not forgetting generate as much donatations as this person had for NKF.
    I think it would be very hard to get anyone to do that in present day Singapore context. All of us need to earn a living and to do that we need money.

    I think all of us can agreed that someone need to be paid a reasonable sum of money to do the job. Is $600K a year too much? Most of us will think it is. But if NKF can justify the amount, why not.
    What I personnally do not agreed with is that they use hard earned donated money
    1) to buy a tap at $990/-
    2) fly 1st class when they can help to save the money
    3) pay for their own car's maintainance and road tax
    4) inflating the fig from 2000 to 3000 ( people under their care )
    5) tell people they only have money to last 3 years when they have enough to last 30 years.
    6) and worst, using the donated money to SUE other people when their mistake is found out.

    And the way they conducted themself in court leaves much to be desired.

    The above 6 points are just what we have learn due to the court case. What else are they hidding? The BOD's pay?
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    Maybe Durai will call in during the show tomorrow to donate the 600K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin
    Pure or not, clean or not, it's not something we say and it'll be there, end of the day it's their actions that will hold the truth. if you want you can check on their publicised financial report http://www.renci.org.sg/finance/financial_info.asp if in doubt you can always question them openly.
    No need dude, only the real truth will speaks for itself. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaren
    why is this so? is it becos the rest can't afford to pay the $850 to NKF to further enhance their $262 million reserves, and are therefore asked to "go and die"?

    u are right..
    my collegue told me what her in-law encounter.
    The NKF told her to pay $500 before use their service.
    If not money, go home. Wait until you go the money, then came back.

    And also heard that NKF will check their report whether you had donate before or not.
    If got, and you got money, they will help
    If don't have , then hehe... bad luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaren
    remember, the most important thing now is "damage limitation" now that NKF's name has been dragged through the mud.
    The correct term is "damage control"

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    Quote Originally Posted by user12343
    to think that those poor TCS artistes sweat blood to do daredevil stunts like walking on knifes, playing with fire, etc and in the end the ceo laffs all the way to the bank....
    poor? they are paid for the stunts lah.

    anyway, as contracted artistes to Media Corp, they are obliged to perform, that is the part which maybe they are tied up.

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    If I remember correctly, on average.....65% of most charity organisations funding went to admistrative costs

    Only 35% or less is passed on to the recipients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yqt
    I think it would be very hard to get anyone to do that in present day Singapore context. All of us need to earn a living and to do that we need money.

    I think all of us can agreed that someone need to be paid a reasonable sum of money to do the job. Is $600K a year too much? Most of us will think it is. But if NKF can justify the amount, why not.
    What I personnally do not agreed with is that they use hard earned donated money
    1) to buy a tap at $990/-
    2) fly 1st class when they can help to save the money
    3) pay for their own car's maintainance and road tax
    4) inflating the fig from 2000 to 3000 ( people under their care )
    5) tell people they only have money to last 3 years when they have enough to last 30 years.
    6) and worst, using the donated money to SUE other people when their mistake is found out.

    And the way they conducted themself in court leaves much to be desired.

    The above 6 points are just what we have learn due to the court case. What else are they hidding? The BOD's pay?
    Or, maybe he's just a sheep to the slaughter house perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KopiSua
    Maybe Durai will call in during the show tomorrow to donate the 600K.
    Oh it's tomorrow is it? Since when was the last time I watched shows by NKF?

    I really pity those TCS performers and stars. Called in to perform those dangerous acts while someone down there was drawing 600K per year. Touchwood, if anything happens, how ah? Will they can compensated by NKF?
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