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    http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mai...g%3D76475%2E21

    N.K.F. LIED TO PUBLIC OVER ACTUAL NUMBER OF PATIENTS IT HAS!!!

    GAVE MASSAGED NUMBERS WITH CRIMINAL INTENT TO RAISE MORE MONEY THAN REQUIRED.

    Continuing trial of NKF vs SPH
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    By Lionel Skinner

    National Kidney Foundation CEO T.T. Durai has admitted that his organisation has made false statements to the public.

    Under cross examination for the second day running, he admitted that NKF had publicly overstated the number of patients it had.

    Mr Durai described the mistake as an oversight and stressed it was not done deliberately.

    But Senior Counsel Davinder Singh who cross examined Mr Durai disagreed with this view.

    Mr Singh said that NKF had set out to mislead the public by overstating the number of patients in the hope of raising more money.

    Mr Durai also said that NKF chairman Richard Yong did not make accurate public statements on NKF's reserves.

    Mr Durai also admitted on the witness stand that he had received director's fees from outside companies that were not disclosed to the NKF board.

    The court also heard that the charity organisation had paid for the road tax and maintenance of Mr Durai's private car that was used by his wife.

    Mr Durai and NKF are suing Singapore Press Holdings and Senior Writer Susan Long over an article published in The Straits Times in April last year.

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    ok CEO Durai has dropped the charges against SPH! just heard from newsflash on tv..

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    waa piang 30 years of expenses

    i wonder how it will work out in the future, imagine
    stagnant income , escalating exp due to more patients (patient replacement ratio). that sum of money could dwindle faster than 30 yrs,

    but then if they know good treasury mgmt , this will not be a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castlesinthesky
    i wonder what of the two individuals he had once sued & won on allegations of him travelling via first class. They had to pay damages and apologize publicly..

    Now the truth has been revealed, would they come forth to launch a counter suit?or just simply because they're "helpless" individuals, their case would just remain of that...in the past
    Its not easy for individuals to play legal battles with big organisation... they just need to drag a few years, you will go bankrupt before you got chance to hear the verdict.

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    http://channelnewsasia.com/stories/s...157556/1/.html

    During the hearing Tuesday, Mr Durai also told the court that he had not kept NKF informed of several directorships he had assumed while he was its CEO.

    Mr Davinder Singh also told the court that the NKF has enough reserves to last it for 30 years, based on the expenses it has incurred for dialysis treatment in 2003.

    Mr Singh will address the court on the issue of costs Wednesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XPeriment626
    cmon, you think all those MDs and GMs from big companies will "volunteer" their extremely expensive time to be board members for nothing. They obviously get large directors' fees as well. The guy who was sued in 1998 by NKF, he said that the board of directors also flew first-class. Surely you don't think Durai can get away with these excesses if the Board weren't so well paid at the same time?

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    That's a great point! At the end of the day, the board and the CEO are all just being clubby. Why rock the boat when everyone is getting fat off public money?

    Personally, I would want to know what each NKF board member is getting paid. If Durai is on 25k a month with 12 months of bonus, I'd love to hear what the entire board has been getting...............
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    LATEST NEWS

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...157556/1/.html


    SINGAPORE : The National Kidney Foundation (NKF) has withdrawn its defamation suits against the Singapore Press Holdings (SPH) at the end of the second day of proceedings in the High Court.

    This turn of events came after NKF CEO TT Durai decided to withdraw both his and NKF's claims against SPH and its journalist Susan Long.

    NKF had sued them after an article, reported in the Straits Times in April last year, talked about expensive fittings at its S$21 million building at Kim Keat Road.

    Under cross examination by SPH's Senior Counsel Davinder Singh, Mr Durai agreed that the fittings were extravagant for a public charity like the NKF.

    During the hearing Tuesday, Mr Durai also told the court that he had not kept NKF informed of several directorships he had assumed while he was its CEO.

    Mr Davinder Singh also told the court that the NKF has enough reserves to last it for 30 years, based on the expenses it has incurred for dialysis treatment in 2003

    Mr Singh will address the court on the issue of costs Wednesday.


    - CNA /ls

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goondoo
    Its not easy for individuals to play legal battles with big organisation... they just need to drag a few years, you will go bankrupt before you got chance to hear the verdict.
    true..but it would have been insightful for the 2 individuals to come out once more in the press and at least give their point of view on this matter...

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    I don't get something... the lawsuit was initiated by the NKF against SPH and its writer. The only reason why Durai is at the witness stand is because of his own doing. I'm surprised that the NKF didn't see all this coming before taking the decision to escalate the case due to a bruised ego.

    None of these alarming facts would have come to the public eye if the NKF just backed down. The ST article in question was probably forgotten by most people by now. It's great that the NKF is finally exposed for what it is but I'm just curious how the organisation let itself get into this very public and embarassing position.

    On a sidenote, all their legal fees (and SPH's) will likely be borne by the coffers of the NKF, which is pretty huge from what I understand. No doubt there'll be damage control to contain the fallout after this, be prepared for more mailers in your letterbox and phone calls from the organisation. Guess where the funds are going to come from.

    Personally, I think it'd be idiotic for anyone to continue donating to the NKF after this episode. Spread the word around to friends and family who might still be in the dark about this.

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    Even though the lawsuit has be withdrawn, it still leaves a big gap in the minds of the public donors just how its funds are being managed.

    I hope this issue is not left just like that. If left unchecked a repeat of such incidents will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gymrat76
    The court also heard that the charity organisation had paid for the road tax and maintenance of Mr Durai's private car that was used by his wife.
    I wonder if she's receiving a salary and bonus from the NKF too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terence
    I don't get something... the lawsuit was initiated by the NKF against SPH and its writer. The only reason why Durai is at the witness stand is because of his own doing. I'm surprised that the NKF didn't see all this coming before taking the decision to escalate the case due to a bruised ego.

    None of these alarming facts would have come to the public eye if the NKF just backed down. The ST article in question was probably forgotten by most people by now. It's great that the NKF is finally exposed for what it is but I'm just curious how the organisation let itself get into this very public and embarassing position.
    It's called overconfidence, Terence. Even smart people make errors in judgements.


    Quote Originally Posted by Terence
    On a sidenote, all their legal fees (and SPH's) will likely be borne by the coffers of the NKF, which is pretty huge from what I understand. No doubt there'll be damage control to contain the fallout after this, be prepared for more mailers in your letterbox and phone calls from the organisation. Guess where the funds are going to come from.

    Personally, I think it'd be idiotic for anyone to continue donating to the NKF after this episode. Spread the word around to friends and family who might still be in the dark about this.
    Which is also why he's not afraid to take the case to court - not his money mah. It's funny how brave people can be when they are not using their own
    money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goondoo
    Its not easy for individuals to play legal battles with big organisation... they just need to drag a few years, you will go bankrupt before you got chance to hear the verdict.
    Oh yes, which is why it's so effective when used as a political weapon in this country.

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    The lawsuit withdrawal IMO is inevitable. They are making a fool out of themselves infront of the whole country.

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    Whose gonna pay for the expense incurred at court? Its gonna be out of the donators pocket again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by damian77
    The lawsuit withdrawal IMO is inevitable. They are making a fool out of themselves infront of the whole country.
    it's ok if they make a fool of themselves, i think they are making a fool of everyone in this country

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    Believe now, transparency is require in NKF.
    War is one of the most regrettable human activities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin
    it's ok if they make a fool of themselves, i think they are making a fool of everyone in this country
    not me, I don't donate....
    I wonder when the gonverning body will be commenting on these issues.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by eikin
    it's ok if they make a fool of themselves, i think they are making a fool of everyone in this country
    ... yeah man... all those pple than entrust them with their hard earn $ for charity... I am speechless...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goondoo
    not me, I don't donate....
    I wonder when the gonverning body will be commenting on these issues.....
    it's not about whether as an individual have we donated. with all these national level campaigns and all, it's no longer about an individual, the whole country is in this

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