Last edited by Octarine; 27th May 2014 at 10:04 AM.
I ate a delicious meal yesterday. The chef must have had super good knife and pots .
Or was it his ingredients (subject ), his cooking skills (composition skills ) and presentation (editing ) ?
Hmmmm. Something to think about
Actually... I do not get what is the big fuss up till now, except that TS used a external survey for his question. Alright, taking it that this is the issue here, then next time TS just don't use external survey.
If I get the whole thing right, TS is only looking for a solution to a decision as to which camera he is to keep from an existing two camera that he had. And so he come up with a couple of photos. Irregardless of what is his skill level, if his photos are over or under expose or whatever, it simply doesn't matter here. Because he is the one taking the photo and so the skill put into both camera is essentially the same.
So we just look at the photos and assuming if every other variant is the same, then depend on our own judgement, see which photo works.
If all the photos doesn't work... then just tell TS, nah, I cannot see too much of a different. That was it. It was not a place where TS ask for critiques to his photo, just, which camera he is going to keep base on photos he had taken.
Really.... And frankly... I know many would think I am stupid or having too much time on hand... but I did the survey. Because I find among the couple of photos taken, one of them clearly capture more details, are sharper and the such, assuming everything is the same.
If you ask me... are those photos well taken, I would have say, "no"... but since TS doesn't ask that question... then I will not answer it, simple as that.
Last edited by wackykid; 27th May 2014 at 02:34 PM.
I had a look at those pictures and it's obvious that the differences have more to do with a lack of skills than with the camera itself.
To make that clear: comparing cameras based on images is not wrong. But as long as pictures are not taken under controlled conditions (tripod, consistent lighting, similar settings for ISO and other parameters) all these comparisons are seriously flawed. it would be betetr to search online for the test results and reviews in dpreview.com and others. There TS can find results and details which are accurate and come from controlled test environments.
If it was two different photographers each using one camera and shooting at a scene, then we can say that the conclusion is not too conclusive. However, coming from the same guy, then it is more or less the same. If it was two different photographers using two different camera, then it would be pretty obvious that things are going to be different and the conclusion might not help TS alot.
If the two cameras that are used to take the photo of a scene but these are from different day (one day it is raining, the other day it is sunny) then the conclusion will not mean anything.
That is why I say, assuming everything is the same.
Anyway, I have presented my case and I have done the survey as asked. I am not going any deeper into the discussion. TS had seen what I have written, and if that help him come to a conclusion, fine. If not, he will have to do more to come to the conclusion.
and i'm not a professional nor do i even consider myself a semi pro... i'm not going to be bringing along a tripod everywhere i go to take photos... nor do i spend a heck lot of time to consider lighting etc... i only play with simple things like ISO... aperture... shuttle speed... moreover keeping all these settings the same is also UNFAIR to compare 2 different systems because in those conditions... if one camera produced well balanced image then the one with smaller sensor size will be underexposed.. likewise one with larger sensor size will simply be overexposed... hence the most practical way is i gotta make the best out of the camera using watever camera settings needed and with the limited skills i have...
and by the way... thank you for your not-so-helpful comments... i hope other newbies will think twice b4 posting anything in the "newbies corner"... as for the rest it would be good to read this thread:
Cmon people, sometimes in life we simply just need to answer a, b, either a or b is ok, or just keep silent..
I vote number one. Why? Dunno, set 1 looks better on my mobile phone. There. Hopefully it helps in your decision making.
*Disclaimer: for better answer you might want to disclose what cameras you are currently comparing, because image result etc are rather subjective and will grow as you gain more experience n skill. But camera spec stay the same.
this discussion is not going anywhere.
I suggest you can revisit this thread maybe 3 or 4 years later, you might have a good laugh of yourself if you have any progress on your photography, or become more mature.
this thread closed.