Basketball

canturn · 6th July 2005

One of those reworked images that I shot sometime back for editorial purposes.

For comparison....

Which one works better?

eikin · 6th July 2005

i believe this is a posed shot? as such IMHO a way to improve this shot would be to request the person to jump off at an earlier point, so that he doesn't 'get into' the net. technically this will show a fuller body of the subject (and probably showcase more completely the action) as he will be further on the left. this will also effectively isolate the person, the net and the shadow, rather than 'cluttering' the person and the net altogether, which IMO allow for a clearer reading.

ockly · 6th July 2005

Very nice shot, really like the shadow on the ground too.

It would be better if the player was not covered by his hand.

Did you climb up there to take the shot?? Cool...

damian77 · 6th July 2005

It will b great if u can capture more of his facial expression... like the shadow on the right... reminds me of Michael Jordan..

canturn · 6th July 2005

Not an iconic shot, not posed

AReality · 6th July 2005

I say the shadow is distracting. Lighting direction wrong also. But great moment. If u can ask him to repose, tell him close his legs.

eikin · 6th July 2005

2nd shot definitely works better. can almost feel the next moment. the ball turned over nicely for the shot as well, that's very lucky. in terms of composition, there's more 'blank' space (which is probably why the crop is so for #1) i'm just wondering, if this isn't a posed shot how come there's no other players around? (they can fill up that 'blank' to improve the composition) is it a practice session? if it's a practice session maybe you can request for a posed shot since this is for your editorial?

shojibake · 6th July 2005

#2 doesn't quite work for me because he's too close to the net, and the shooter is too large, which doesn't quite portray the amount of effort that #1's shooter has. I love both moments though.

ortega · 6th July 2005

I prefer #1, the lines on the ground is a lot less messy and the shadow is in an interesting pose.

but as already mentioned above, it would be great if the player was not in the net, his arm is not covering his face, he had a nice facial expression and he is not in the shadows.

nemesis32 · 7th July 2005

Sorry to OT but i think the shadow of #2 is excellent... it would be a good shot on its own....#1 is a copy of the jordan (shape on the shoe) except it's fingerroll but not a dunk.

For this type of shot, at that angle, there's almost no way of avoiding the MAN IN THE NET pose... try layups against the board instead and it should be better...

canturn · 7th July 2005

Thanks for the comments so far.

Shadows were made harsh using curve and burned in, face could be brighten too, just that I felt that it lacks the atheletic look.

Shooting directly above with the net 40 cm away from the lens was no joke, at that height with ladder leaning against the rebound board.

Nonetheless, keep the comments coming!

dRebelXT · 8th July 2005

I like #2 better. The lines, circles, semicircles and intersections are not broken as abruptly as in #1. The details on the basketball in #2 is more interesting than #1 which is sorta 'broken' also. The shadow of the board in #1 is sort of monotonous. The face and eye in #1 are flaws.

Rev · 8th July 2005

as a jordan fan...

I like #1 because the shadow looks like.. u know

The lines on the court are much simpler and almost look as if somebody drew them in.

If the face in both pics were important to the picture then I would say both have failed because of the direction of the sun.
But if the pic is just meant to be interesting, then I applaud ya for putting the hoop in the centre & all the other stuff just happen to fall in around it =)

Flash would help with the shadows but that might blind the player =(

user111 · 8th July 2005

when jordan dunk he spread his leg front-back, not sideways in the photo which look unnatural

Rev · 8th July 2005

yea... but oh well.

6th July 2005	#3
ockly Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,141	Very nice shot, really like the shadow on the ground too. It would be better if the player was not covered by his hand. Did you climb up there to take the shot?? Cool... __________________ O

6th July 2005	#6
AReality Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 4,396	I say the shadow is distracting. Lighting direction wrong also. But great moment. If u can ask him to repose, tell him close his legs. __________________ . The Visual Journalist

6th July 2005	#7
eikin Moderator Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: 東京 Tokyo Posts: 10,920	2nd shot definitely works better. can almost feel the next moment. the ball turned over nicely for the shot as well, that's very lucky. in terms of composition, there's more 'blank' space (which is probably why the crop is so for #1) i'm just wondering, if this isn't a posed shot how come there's no other players around? (they can fill up that 'blank' to improve the composition) is it a practice session? if it's a practice session maybe you can request for a posed shot since this is for your editorial? __________________ APAD

6th July 2005	#9
ortega Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NorthEast Posts: 16,507	I prefer #1, the lines on the ground is a lot less messy and the shadow is in an interesting pose. but as already mentioned above, it would be great if the player was not in the net, his arm is not covering his face, he had a nice facial expression and he is not in the shadows. __________________ The Law

8th July 2005	#12
dRebelXT Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,563	I like #2 better. The lines, circles, semicircles and intersections are not broken as abruptly as in #1. The details on the basketball in #2 is more interesting than #1 which is sorta 'broken' also. The shadow of the board in #1 is sort of monotonous. The face and eye in #1 are flaws. __________________ My photog website! :) I am AF - A Fool..

6th July 2005	#1
canturn Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: East, SG Posts: 2,706	Basketball One of those reworked images that I shot sometime back for editorial purposes. For comparison.... Which one works better? Last edited by canturn; 6th July 2005 at 09:29 PM.

6th July 2005	#4
damian77 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 317	It will b great if u can capture more of his facial expression... like the shadow on the right... reminds me of Michael Jordan..

6th July 2005	#8
shojibake Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 385	#2 doesn't quite work for me because he's too close to the net, and the shooter is too large, which doesn't quite portray the amount of effort that #1's shooter has. I love both moments though.

7th July 2005	#10
nemesis32 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 3,483	Sorry to OT but i think the shadow of #2 is excellent... it would be a good shot on its own....#1 is a copy of the jordan (shape on the shoe) except it's fingerroll but not a dunk. For this type of shot, at that angle, there's almost no way of avoiding the MAN IN THE NET pose... try layups against the board instead and it should be better...

8th July 2005	#13
Rev Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 913	as a jordan fan... I like #1 because the shadow looks like.. u know The lines on the court are much simpler and almost look as if somebody drew them in. If the face in both pics were important to the picture then I would say both have failed because of the direction of the sun. But if the pic is just meant to be interesting, then I applaud ya for putting the hoop in the centre & all the other stuff just happen to fall in around it =) Flash would help with the shadows but that might blind the player =(

8th July 2005	#14
user111 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,719	when jordan dunk he spread his leg front-back, not sideways in the photo which look unnatural