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Photos from Germany, Please comment
Hi Guys, please comment on my photo which I took in Germany with my FZ5 few days back. Thanks
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These are called snapshots.
They look flat and uninteresting. No proper framing involved. Advise is brush up on your framing 1st. . |
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Hi Fizz....
Good try.... maybe its because u are not familiar with ur cam yet.... try to play around with ur apenture and WB... u got a very nice place to shoot, but must think abit more before u shoot... treat shooting digital like shooting film.... Don't just squeeze away like nobody biz.... A photo suppose to tell a story, althought I can see what u want to tell in ur set of photos, but they are not dynamic enough to attract casual viewer.... it lacks the omph... u have to figure out how to get more omph in ur photos.... One way is to refers to other people photos.... (no, not to ask u copy their work). Just get some ideas from other photos... eg: from magazine, or in the forum here... experiment those shots u see from other photos urself... but instead of shooting a bird like the other photographer did, u can shoot a cat or a dog, but apply the same mood or skills... But most importantly, know ur equipment well and ur basic well, don't let the camera control the way u take a photo, u should have full comman when creating that winning shot. Don't be dishearted, shoot more and experiment. nothing can be master overnite. And remember, the equipment don't create top photographer.... its top photographer who push the limit for manufacturer to create better equipment. Ur FZ5 will be ur best buddy right now... so spent a little more time with it, an it will tell u how to make full use of it.... Cheers, Francis Tan. |
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That was a helpful reply... thanks for taking the time to help out the newbies... Can you give us a few pointers on framing from your experience? cheers! :-) Last edited by airconvent; 6th July 2005 at 01:31 AM. |
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But can share with u my views... understand ur basic frameing rules first, then try to break the rules to be different from others.... but don't bend the rules too much.... Remember, photography is an art, not a science, so there is not hard and fuss rules of right or wrong... create the art in u... Take critics openly, event grand masters have their ups and downs too... so don't be discourage. There is more to learn from photography then just taking a good photo, its about how to see life at more than one angle. A few Panasonic user form PLUG for Panasonic user Group as a platform for networking and sharing amoung the Panasonic users. But sad to say, the objective of Plug was slowly forgotten, and more people are more interested in shooting, then sitting down to discuss, and joke... My initial intention of Plug was not to come out to shoot, but more like a casual gathering, sit down and chit chat over a cup of coffee, shooting was then added in to spice up the whole session. But lately, Plug was so difficult to organised cos the group here will expect more for the shooting session than just the chit chat session.... Nevertheless, I will try to organise a chit chat / sharing session for the new comers... and I will invite a few pros from panasonic to come down as well to give a speech.... kekeke.... Cheers, Francis Tan Last edited by tkp77; 6th July 2005 at 01:51 AM. |
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I don't mean to be rude, or harsh, but a lot of advise can be looked up/found on the internet regarding the basics of photography and picture composition.
There are a LOT of excellent info out there, and even if some of us were to type out 2 or 3 full pages, we might miss out something. Perhaps try doing a search using key phrases like 'basic picture composition', 'the basics of composing a photograph', 'beginner's guide to photography' etc. CHEERS! |
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an article serves to give as much info as possible. knowledge sharing involves the person actually talking about the parts that matter from exerperience... |
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kudos to tkp77 and airconvent for helping us newbies out. but i also agree with what feinwerkbau has said. perhaps reading up first and then seeking clarification would be better.
and i also like the fountain shot. but would have been better if the face of the man could be seen more clearly |
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My Gallery: http://www.tchuanye.smugmug.com/ Eqpt: http://www.tchuanye.smugmug.com/gallery/271702 |
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1. Understanding Exposure This book talks a lot on correct exposure, particularly good for true begineers, where you have absolutely no idea what f-stop and shutter speed is all about. Even if you think you know, after reading this book, I am sure you will find it extremely helpful to refresh on what you know, and at certain point of time, you will have the "Ah...that's why I did not get the right exposure..." feeling and smile away with the mistake that you just realize you had made a thousand times. 2. Learning to see Creativity This is a book talks nothing about exposure and so on, but truly deligated to photo framing. The book teaches us to look at things at different angle, different perspective, even standing at the same place viewing at the same subject, with wide angle view, zooming down slowly, allowing you to see the change in the subject and hence, be able to realize what is the best frame when you start to plan for your shot. I hope this help, and I know many of us hate reading books, however, this is one of the many ways where we can pick up the knowledge. Shooting is merely practices where you already have the basic knowledge and foundation in your mind. |
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Francis: Dun sad lah.... I think if that's the intent of PLUG, just need to state it out in the open from the start. I'm not an active member but I've been observing PLUG even before it started. The newer members came in thinking that PLUG is a gathering solely for photoshoots. Considering that this is a photography community, it's very natural to assume that shooting is the purpose of PLUG. But it seems that you still haven't lose the original PLUG spirit! Cheers man & keep it up! There's a lot that the newer members can learn from you!  |
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Once I showed a picture to a well known photographer and a good friend. I mentioned casually, "Oh, that was just a snapshot". I was not prepared for his outburst! "What do you mean snap shot? You mean it was not worth taking? Then why do you take it? Why do you show it?" A snap shot is an image taken quickly. Henri Cartier-Bresson specialises in "snap-shots" of the special moments. Being a snapshot does not degrade the standing of the image. It just means that it was taken quickly. The problem with these images is not that they are snapshots. The problem is the other part you mentioned, viz, poor composition. But I think for a newbie attempt, not bad. Takes courage to photograph people. But it is true that this series are not interesting. |
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Do not use the last two sentences. It is not helpful and creates animosity. Instead write why you think he is incorrect in his statements. |
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 Even if I can't be there in person, I will try to participate in the forum occasionally to be remembered. Last edited by obewan; 6th July 2005 at 01:57 PM. |
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Thats what I need all your comments on how to improve. May I know what is framing? How can I go about brushing it up? |
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My suggestion is this. If you are serious about art in general and photography in particular, start by making yourself a person who is acquainted with the arts. Take an interest in music, poetry, painting, sculpture, pottery etc. There are structures and forms, and light and shapes in all these things. And of course, look at the past works. There are lots of images of people in and near fountains. Study them. Lots of books around. Go to Kinokuniya or the library. See the images. There is nothing wrong to study the works of past masters. Learn from them, and then move on. And of course keep shooting. One day, someone will ask you " how do you frame the pictures". |
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www.google.com is actually your best friend. by typing "how to take better photographs for beginners" will give u a lot of useful links. |
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I check three dictionaries. The official definition of "snapshot" is a picture taken quickly. "Snap". The content is unimportant in the definition. Of course you are aware that there are a lot of pictures taken quickly, yet imbued with lots of meaning. I had just returned from a trip to Jiangnan, and took many snaps. Would love to show some of these images, but I am unable to load the images because my images are in the order of 2-4MB files. Any advise on how to downsize these files on my iphoto? |
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