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    "The Queensland man who sparked a hijack scare at Bali airport on Friday has denied he was drunk and claimed instead that he believed the cockpit door was the entrance to the toilet."



    http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-...426-37aii.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    "The Queensland man who sparked a hijack scare at Bali airport on Friday has denied he was drunk and claimed instead that he believed the cockpit door was the entrance to the toilet."
    He issued the statement and still denies that he is drunk ?
    Any chance that he still drunk while making that statement ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanzohattori View Post
    He issued the statement and still denies that he is drunk ?
    Any chance that he still drunk while making that statement ?
    Lucky he didn't have the chance to get into the cockpit and piss on the pilot.

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    Guys please keep it civil and no racist comments here. Take this as a warning. Thanks.

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    Default Re: Cockpit door the entrance to toilet?

    How come the cockpit door was not secured, ie locked? Serious breach indeed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shierwin View Post
    How come the cockpit door was not secured, ie locked? Serious breach indeed?
    Maybe it has this sign on the door?


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    Quote Originally Posted by shierwin View Post
    How come the cockpit door was not secured, ie locked? Serious breach indeed?
    The door is locked and he is banging hard on the door, which made the pilots inside thought someone is trying to hijack the plane.
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    Indonesian authorities have every right to treat this in the most serious manner.

    For example, how do they know that this was not a rehearsal by unspecified terrorists to test the readiness and cockpit security measures before an actual attack?
    By getting someone to pretend to be drunk or under the influence of medication and trying to get into cockpit?
    How do they know whether this guy was paid to put on an act, to test the security readiness within the plane?

    They do not know.

    So they have to include all possibilities and take nothing off the table under the matter is thoroughly investigated.


    The cockpit door cannot be mistaken for lavatory door. Even if the passenger was drunk or under medication.

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    What an embarrassment, as an Australian and a Queenslander I hope the authorities throw the book at him. I am travelling to Singapore this week and I promise to not behave in a similar manner. Imagine how the other passengers on the flight must have felt.
    His behaviour, no matter what he has or has not pumped into his body, is reprehensible. The product of a society that has few consecquences for those who break the law and have no concern for anyone but themselves. How stupid can pepole be to think that they can still act like louts and thugs when they step onto an international flight. The behaviour that they can get away with at the football or at their local pub is just not acceptable overseas. Wake up Australia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yutaka Go View Post
    The door is locked and he is banging hard on the door, which made the pilots inside thought someone is trying to hijack the plane.
    "Serious questions are being asked of Virgin Blue's pilot and copilot after they enacted full hijack alerts to deal with an unruly passenger on board a flight to Bali on Friday.

    Virgin has confirmed that the pilot or copilot activated a 7500 alert code – which, in international aviation terms, signifies a hijack under way – but did not de-activate it after it became clear it was a drunk or drugged Queensland plumber banging on the cockpit door."

    http://www.smh.com.au/national/hijac...426-37ay2.html

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    The pilot was correct. He cannot assume that the potential danger is over. He must not de-activate the alert.
    How would anyone on board the plane know whether there were many other accomplices on the plane who have not yet sprung into action? Terrorists know that on some planes there may be plain clothes air marshal. Hidden terrorist accomplices will wait for the air marshal to react to the first guy's antics, revealing his identity - and then attack him.
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    Pilots follow rule book and SOP whenever possible. If that's what the manual says to do then they're doing it
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    I think his perception of the word 'Cockpit' had something to do with his behavior when drunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuma View Post
    Pilots follow rule book and SOP whenever possible. If that's what the manual says to do then they're doing it
    Yes, decision making and thought process should primarily be guided by SOPs. Sound judgement should be exercised too.

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    Certain aircraft type I came across has a toilet right next to the cockpit entrance. When one is drunk and urgent, any door would be assumed as one leading to the toilet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -120- View Post
    Yes, decision making and thought process should primarily be guided by SOPs. Sound judgement should be exercised too.
    Typical Kiasu Kiasi mentality?

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    Boeing should be thoroughly grilled on why their design is so poor that a passenger can hv mistaken the cockpit for a toilet. LOL.
    Either boeing technology is poor, or it is not toilet-safe.
    I would not like to fly in a boeing aircraft unless they can explain how they can build better and safer toilets onboard
    Last edited by d2xpeter; 27th April 2014 at 07:06 PM.

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    Even if you got the toilet door correct, would you bang on a toilet door on the plane if it was occupied by someone else?

    What kind of person does that?

    All the other plane passengers in the relevant part of the plane (1st Class / Business Class / Economy Class) are watching and hearing this.

    There is more than one toilet on the plane and if very urgent can ask cabin crew to help locate an empty one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2xpeter View Post
    Boeing should be thoroughly grilled on why their design is so poor that a passenger can hv mistaken the cockpit for a toilet. LOL.
    Either boeing technology is poor, or it is not toilet-safe.
    I would not like to fly in a boeing aircraft unless they can explain how they can build better and safer toilets onboard
    Toilets on air are never safe:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...by-Qantas.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    unsafe indeed. perhaps it should also be designed to be sex-safe and ask MM to grill them further on this. LOL
    Else he would not like to fly in a boeing forever.
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