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    Default Female Model required for a paid photoshoot

    I'm a professional photographer looking for a female model for a commercial job. The model will be paid. The client stated that they wanted a female model with sharp features. It's a half day shoot. Those interested can send your photos and rates via my email andyloh@singnet.com.sg. And those not involved, please do refrain from posting here. Thanks a lot.

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    Default This is what I found out ...

    Hmmm... I was keen to help but I was not given enough details. So, let me share what I found out :

    1. It's a COMMERCIAL job - yes, it will be in the newspapers. Well, I ve oredi highlighted that since it's already going to be a newspaper ad, which arent cheap in the first place.... why 'save' $$$ on model fees if the target audience or message could be put across ? I am sure the 'reward' is much better if the ad turns out well.

    2. Age - At least 20 yrs old and above......no cap, so if you are fifty and have sharp features in the right places, you may still qualify ? I had no chance to ask further.

    3. Cannot charge too much - "Rates too high, the clients also don't want" ...duh, it's already a newspaper ad, so our models here do expect a decent renumeration ..how's $1500 for a start ? ....maybe need to take away one zero ? if not, they wont use you. I am sure our girls here deserve better.

    GOOD LUCK and do contact him if you fit his criteria So, ladies....make sure you get your money worth. Photogaphers arent cheap here, models arent either .......Oh dear..am I OT ?... I am here to share the details only.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74
    I'm a professional photographer looking for a female model for a commercial job. The model will be paid. The client stated that they wanted a female model with sharp features. It's a half day shoot. Those interested can send your photos and rates via my email andyloh@singnet.com.sg. And those not involved, please do refrain from posting here. Thanks a lot.
    Mostly photographers here. Try www.onemodelplace.com. to find models.
    It is easier to critique than to create ; www.razin-photography.com
    My studio is available for rent

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    another cheapo exploiting models???

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    is CS a place to look for paid models? the mods can play god here again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AhV
    Hmmm... I was keen to help but I was not given enough details. So, let me share what I found out :

    1. It's a COMMERCIAL job - yes, it will be in the newspapers. Well, I ve oredi highlighted that since it's already going to be a newspaper ad, which arent cheap in the first place.... why 'save' $$$ on model fees if the target audience or message could be put across ? I am sure the 'reward' is much better if the ad turns out well.

    2. Age - At least 20 yrs old and above......no cap, so if you are fifty and have sharp features in the right places, you may still qualify ? I had no chance to ask further.

    3. Cannot charge too much - "Rates too high, the clients also don't want" ...duh, it's already a newspaper ad, so our models here do expect a decent renumeration ..how's $1500 for a start ? ....maybe need to take away one zero ? if not, they wont use you. I am sure our girls here deserve better.

    GOOD LUCK and do contact him if you fit his criteria So, ladies....make sure you get your money worth. Photogaphers arent cheap here, models arent either .......Oh dear..am I OT ?... I am here to share the details only.


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    Just a clarification. Please note that I have rejected AhV's 'help cause he is not very professional. I'm here requesting for models themselves and not Modelling Agency(Or a photographer assuming the role of modelling agency so as to get a cut from the models who work hard for their pay.) as requested by my client.

    Know when to keep infomation confidential when details are released even though you don't get the job. And not try to mess things up just because the job is given to another person. That's what I call professional.

    I have quotations from well known Modelling Agencies and they give much better quotes from AHV. And their rates are justified cause they have rentals, staffs, tax and their models are great. So is it fair that he charges higher rates than Modeling Agencies? Secondly I have not stated the rates I will give to the models so what give AHV the right to assume that I'm offering $150?

    Thanks to Razor for your offer to help, you are very kind. I have already shortlisted the models.

    Petf69, please get your facts right before jumping into conclusion and accuse another fellow clubsnap member. Freelancer or Professional, we all have to be professional about our ethics and refrain from smearing the names of another photographer or his clients. Thanks.

    Moderater, please close this thread as I have already shortlisted the models. I appreciate it.

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    Default Oh dear .... Girlsl, I am labelled "unprofessional" =b

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy74
    Just a clarification. Please note that I have rejected AhV's 'help cause he is not very professional. I'm here requesting for models themselves and not Modelling Agency(Or a photographer assuming the role of modelling agency so as to get a cut from the models who work hard for their pay.) as requested by my client.

    Oh really ? Dun assume you were professional when you could not even provide simple answers to simple queries. If we represent our models, what is wrong with that ? We always do and they expect us to find out more before accepting any assignments. This is how it works and you called yourself a 'pro' and accused us for not being one.....


    Know when to keep infomation confidential when details are released even though you don't get the job. And not try to mess things up just because the job is given to another person. That's what I call professional.

    Keep what confidential ? there were nothing to begin with ...


    I have quotations from well known Modelling Agencies and they give much better quotes from AHV. And their rates are justified cause they have rentals, staffs, tax and their models are great. So is it fair that he charges higher rates than Modeling Agencies? Secondly I have not stated the rates I will give to the models so what give AHV the right to assume that I'm offering $150?

    It's so ironical ..... Be honest with the members here .....these were your exact words to me "Rates too high, the clients also don't want which is why I have to come here. So rates is one impt factor. "

    If you think so highly of and can afford the big names out there, you would not even have posted here. Just go to one and grab one of their models. So, any member here can still call you a 'cheapo' including Petf69 .... Frankly, that is the impression one gets especially when this ad is a commercial job, will be shot by a 'pro' photographer - assuming you are one and will be used in the papers..... Fair to charge ? Let me share with you that some of our models here are paid $500 for a one and half hour session, so you should try to work out the sum

    Thanks to Razor for your offer to help, you are very kind. I have already shortlisted the models.

    Petf69, please get your facts right before jumping into conclusion and accuse another fellow clubsnap member. Freelancer or Professional, we all have to be professional about our ethics and refrain from smearing the names of another photographer or his clients. Thanks.

    You think too highly of yourself. Dun called us 'unprofessional' when you were not in the first place. Afterall, this is a photographers' forum....we do have nice models here like Melissa and Haley who became our members. We love them and they definitely deserve and can command a decent remuneration.....

    Moderater, please close this thread as I have already shortlisted the models. I appreciate it.


    The members here deserve a clearer picture .......I hope this clarifies .....All the models in the house, you deserve better, right ?......LOLz

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    Hmmm...I think there is no need for you guys to get too personal over this la. We are all trying to make a living or pursue our hobby/passion.

    Since Professionalism was brought up. I would like to share my experiences while handling models for local/ foreign:

    Foreign models are more than willing to go for castings as compared to local ones. They are very enthusiastic and understand that every opportunity is precious, especially for those high media value ones. Some of the local models are very particular about money. They will usually ask how much they are gonna be paid before they go for castings. Some of them became a little famous and actually say things like they are "overexposed" in magazines and advertisments and demanded no-castings required high paying jobs! I have even come across local models who wanted partial advancement of photoshoot pay and never turn up for the job!

    Most of our local models are not well groomed. Some dont even know how to catwalk, pose or makeup/ good dress sense and yet they called themselves models. In a recent casting I attended, I was told that the price for the foreign models was the same as for the local one. Its very hard for the local one to compete for that particular job as she was a newcomer with a less impressive portfolio. However, we always like to support good local models if they are nice and appreciative people and we should definitely push them for more exposure.

    Since I am a fellow photographer, in a position to give photo jobs without castings, close to several video production houses and runs a agency at the same time, this is how I would see the whole affair:

    Photographers' angle:
    We are tasked with choosing the "Best available" model to suit the theme of the photoshoot. We have to reassure the agency and model that we have got a budget to consider and hence price is a consideration in the selection of the model. Better rapport should be build and a longer term relationship should be established. If you help me this time, you become my friend and I will definitely support you back. This is very true for me throughout these few years. Now, I can get some mediacorp artists and overseas actresses/ actors for a fun shoot because we have build a good friendship over time. Its all about networking and having good friends. You will never know whether the 17-18 year old gal you just shot will become the next Zhang ZiYi or not, so treat everyone as friends unless proven otherwise.

    Agency's angle:
    We are tasked in protecting the rights of models/talents under us. We should broker deals that best suit our models and expose them for better deals next time. Just last month, I was told by a model broker that I cannot book a local model because the local model do not know me/ have not worked with me before. For security reason, the model is not available for a shoot out in the yatch and can only be shot at the pier. I went to the agency to introduce myself to the broker and told her that I had prepared the cash to pay her on the spot but I am not going to give the model the job as all alternatives such as paying more for a chaperon was not entertained. I felt insulted as the model broker implied that I am booking the model for sleasy stuff and my client from a big MNC corporation, which happened to be next to me, was laughing her guts out trying to mock me! She said its very ridiculous for a photographer to know all the models prior to a photoshoot! As a agent/broker, PR is the most important thing and we must always treat all clients with respect. We must be careful of the things we say even though this current job might not be given to our models. We should think long term and establish a good relationship with our clients by understanding their needs and concerns foremost and then delivering the best service to him/her.

    Models' angle:
    Know your strength and weakness. Upgrade yourself if there is a need. Find someone to groom you up properly.Start with basic makeup, catwalk, pose and dress sense. Being a model is not just about having a set of com cards nor a portfolio of photos. Be humble always, learn to be appreciative of opportunities that come your way and be less calculative. A simple Cost-Benefit Analysis can usually settle major issues easily. I wont even mind shooting for free if the project involves a famous photographer, stylist, makeup/hairstylist, creative director and its going to appear in a international magazine with a circulation of 500K, but that is my thinking and not many model will agree. Recently, I asked a model turned artiste whether she would like to appear in a MTV clip that is going around the world with a exhibition to be shown on big screens and her answer was, why would the clip requires a artiste? I would not even consider her a artiste, maybe a newcomer. The best joke was the job was a high paying one for the lead role! of course, I would not waste time giving her any future opportunities after her reply. Hence, the moral of the story is be nice to people and evaluate all opportunities that comes along. You never know how far you can go alone but I am sure you can have a shot at your dreams if there are many people supporting you.

    Hope this will appease all sides. The views and experieces are all my own la. By the way, I always support uniquely "made in singapore" products hor

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    Default Thanks bro ....me too

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuck Loong
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    The views and experieces are all my own la. By the way, I always support uniquely "made in singapore" products hor

    Well said, bro ....BTW, I am also fully supportive of "MADE IN SINGAPORE" products ..giving them all the necessary training and yes, teaching them to be humble too Oh well, I got a litle 'upset' when I was deemed 'unprofessional'

    Cheers !

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    Quote Originally Posted by reachme2003
    is CS a place to look for paid models? the mods can play god here again?
    This is a plain sh1tty statement that's uncall for.

    If CS is a place to look for paid models, the mods won't do anything. Whereas if CS is not the place to look for paid models, the mods will carry out their duty and close the thread. What's wrong with that? You call that playing god?

    Perhaps you should change your reading style, learn to read things in full, and have some patience while reading.

    It's your type of posting that causes all the tight moderation in kopitiam.

    Just my 0.02 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reachme2003
    is CS a place to look for paid models? the mods can play god here again?
    Trust me, if only I am one, ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goondu
    Trust me, if only I am one, ......

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    just leaving my scent around ... +1 before lock ...yet again ...

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    This thread is hereby closed as
    a) the thread-starter requested for closure in post #6.
    b) thread has started to go off-topic.

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    hehe you forgot to click the close radio button :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Darren
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    a) the thread-starter requested for closure in post #6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vince123123
    hehe you forgot to click the close radio button :P
    Ooops, so I did. Corrected.

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