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    well he can choose not to, but considering that the couple has posted their views on this thread, by not responding, one can only be led to construe the worst.

    Quote Originally Posted by kex
    i think this is between the couple and kah heng,he doesn't need to explain his action to the forum,right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_Yeo
    there are many reasons why someone dun answer calls, let's say, if i kenna accident and hospitalised unconscious, think i will answer the call? if detained by police for 48 hours, cannot make phone call right? if I am overseas and kenna kidnapped, i cannot answer phone call right?
    There is KH and RG. What is the probability that something happens to both of them at the same time? They should not be together if KH is suppose to be somewhere else and cannot cover the wedding. And if they are not confortable with the changed date, they had 2 months from April to say so. I really think they are giving freelancing a bad name. Maybe create a reputable (or otherwise) freelance wedding photographer list as reference to protect those "unaware" couples? No reputation is better than bad one.

    I agree with Katherine, responsibility is important. Even if you had an accident, break leg, bang head, get hit by a bus, as long as your conscious enough to talk, you should settle your responsibility. If you cannot and still alive the next day, call and explain. They failed both. So unless both are killed or kidnapped at the same time by previous couples, I don't see any reason why they haven't explained.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caspere
    Shouldn't we be more measured in our response since we are not the ones involved and do not have the full facts.
    Honestly I cannot understand how a no-show from a photographer spoilt the whole event or for that matter the whole day.

    If you can't get the photographer to confirm by Friday, your backup plan should be kicked in. At worst the event just went unrecorded. You need to be prepared for contingency.

    With the documentation, you just have to take the right action and claim the damages.

    To me its bitching and whinning and I dun understand why the rest is also kicking up a fuss over it.

    BTW, I am not related to CS or KH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litefoot
    Honestly I cannot understand how a no-show from a photographer spoilt the whole event or for that matter the whole day....
    If you cannot understand this, then there's no point you saying the rest in your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litefoot
    Honestly I cannot understand how a no-show from a photographer spoilt the whole event or for that matter the whole day.

    If you can't get the photographer to confirm by Friday, your backup plan should be kicked in. At worst the event just went unrecorded. You need to be prepared for contingency.

    With the documentation, you just have to take the right action and claim the damages.

    To me its bitching and whinning and I dun understand why the rest is also kicking up a fuss over it.

    BTW, I am not related to CS or KH.
    Fact:
    - Couple hired a photographer
    - Photographer expected to do his job
    - Photographer did not do his job say "got substitute"
    - Photographer's substitute oso din do his job
    - Disappeared and nothing heard thereafter

    Summary: Photographer acted irresponsibly.

    Since the photographer is accepting a client's request, shldn't it be the photographer doing the confirmation and stuff like dat instead of the client calling up to chase the photographer? Its pretty bad business ethics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsbn
    Fact:
    - Couple hired a photographer
    - Photographer expected to do his job
    - Photographer did not do his job say "got substitute"
    - Photographer's substitute oso din do his job
    - Disappeared and nothing heard thereafter

    Summary: Photographer acted irresponsibly.

    Since the photographer is accepting a client's request, shldn't it be the photographer doing the confirmation and stuff like dat instead of the client calling up to chase the photographer? Its pretty bad business ethics.
    I have to clarify, according to what being said its no doubt that the photographer is not acting responsibly.

    What I dun understand is why most of you seemed to be out wanting his blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jOhO
    If you cannot understand this, then there's no point you saying the rest in your post.
    Oh... I am really sorry that you did not plan contigency and back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litefoot
    Oh... I am really sorry that you did not plan contigency and back up.
    It's ok, you're forgiven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongsien
    NO! This is not the same guy! The first names are the same but not the family name.........the 'Kah Heng' from Clubsnap doesn't do weddings.........Soh Kah Heng from this discussion is the same as 'Chris Soh'.......

    Hong Sien
    Finally someone stand up for the KH in CS.. like i said dun wana wrong the wrong guy...

    Castlesinthesky, ur guess is wrong dude...

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    Quote Originally Posted by litefoot
    Honestly I cannot understand how a no-show from a photographer spoilt the whole event or for that matter the whole day.

    If you can't get the photographer to confirm by Friday, your backup plan should be kicked in. At worst the event just went unrecorded. You need to be prepared for contingency.

    With the documentation, you just have to take the right action and claim the damages.

    To me its bitching and whinning and I dun understand why the rest is also kicking up a fuss over it.

    BTW, I am not related to CS or KH.
    II agreed that if there's no response from the photographer on Friday, the backup plan should kick in liao. During my wedding 2 years back, I have 2 of my friends as backup photographers. But I guess some couples may not have friends who are good enough to be photographers etc. Maybe, no matter what, anything that **** out during the wedding day is a no-no. No matter what, the disappointment and unhappiness, in this case the disappearance of the paid photographer" would definitely spoilt the day.




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    Quote Originally Posted by jOhO
    It's ok, you're forgiven.
    Nope you should feel thankful that I am sorry for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litefoot
    What I dun understand is why most of you seemed to be out wanting his blood.
    Because if you notice, it says "irresponsible photographer", not irresponsible KH or RG. It affects the image of freelance photographers in general. And just like you, we are sharing our opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine
    My wedding is last saturday, 25 Jun and my morning was spoilt by the photographer which i enagaged. He didnt turned up on my AD, he played me out n I called him the whole day on the Friday n Saturday. Luckily i got my sister group n my colleague to help me to take some shots. My brother got his friend to help me the very last min n he agreed and turn up too which i am very grateful to him. All brides want their wedding to turn out well n nothing goes wrong but there is some irresponsible people who is out there to spolit the day. All the preparation are nearly ruin by these type of stupid irresponsible people.
    hi katherine,

    if i may suggest (without getting flamed) - as you have articulated, "All brides want their wedding to turn out well n nothing goes wrong". unfortunately, something did go wrong...

    but something else also went right!! thanks to your ever-resourceful brother (whom you have probably fought with all your life - but now you know that he really loves you, else he wouldn't have bothered to call and convince his friend to cover the event). and your family, friends and colleagues who felt that your wedding was significant enough to them for them to bring their cameras along to take pictures with you (not just of you). (hopefully, most of the day was covered).

    of course, there were also another 1000 other things that went right that day... e.g. each one of guest is another reason to remember the day fondly!!

    of course, i might be exaggerating a little... but i'm just trying to get ONE key point across - remember your wedding day for the blessing that it is. sure, something went wrong , but celebrate the good of that day . to put it another way, on your anniversary, do not remember the day for the photographer who went MIA, but for what it really was - the day you celebrated your (you and your hubbie) love with your loved ones, family, and friends.

    by no means am i advocating that you should not pursue the matter of any bad practices by the photographer… if he likes taking $100 deposits only to subsequently sued for $12k... maybe i’m already making too much of a judgment on the guy without really knowing all the facts. but he should be taken to task, if indeed he is in the wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litefoot
    I have to clarify, according to what being said its no doubt that the photographer is not acting responsibly.

    What I dun understand is why most of you seemed to be out wanting his blood.
    Maybe u did not read my above post... For ur benefit (and others once again), I'll repost it.

    Apparently if its juz an isolated case (really so sway both guys kena knock by car or wad. Can go buy Toto oredi), den I guess the photographer's answerable to the couple.

    But this is like.... several couples liao? Jiat lat until tio blacklist kena lawsuit? I think this chap's answerable to the entire Singapore Photographer Community liao lest every photographer kena treated with disdain thereafter.

    May be exaggerated, but this concerns the reputation of all photographers involved! Event coverage, bridal/wedding coverage, etc.
    How do you wanna be treated cos of 1 black sheep? With disdain and suspicion by all your future contacts and potential businesses?

    You may know yourself dude. But others do not know you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cactus jACK

    but something else also went right!!
    That's exactly my point. I am not saying that there is nothing wrong with the no-show but I feel that the situation had been err... over stretched emotionally?

    To a certain extend that some of you are throwing in their bit at CS/KH. Its amazing how a less than 10 posts mileage poster can stir most of us emotionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgbyte77
    Because if you notice, it says "irresponsible photographer", not irresponsible KH or RG. It affects the image of freelance photographers in general. And just like you, we are sharing our opinion.
    You are responsible as well as building your own reputation. In all business and trade there are baddies. You can't change that fact but you can do your part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litefoot
    Nope you should feel thankful that I am sorry for you.
    From a person with limited understanding?

    ok lor.. thanx.

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    My purpose to post this thread is try to warn as many couples as possible tat wat have happened to me tat all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine
    My purpose to post this thread is try to warn as many couples as possible tat wat have happened to me tat all?
    I empathise you ... even if I am sick and have to drag there .. I will still do it if not otherwise arrange some1 to take over me ...

    For this case, I could not understands what is the logic behind why the photographer involved on your AD wedding didnt even tell you anything should something goes wrong and that is our responsibility.

    Thanks for sharing ... take care.
    AMPA * WPPI * J team

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    Quote Originally Posted by litefoot
    That's exactly my point. I am not saying that there is nothing wrong with the no-show but I feel that the situation had been err... over stretched emotionally?

    To a certain extend that some of you are throwing in their bit at CS/KH. Its amazing how a less than 10 posts mileage poster can stir most of us emotionally.
    Litefoot,

    My guess is that you are not married. Independent how many things went right, my wife would have been at least as emotional as Katherine. She will (hopefully) get married only once in her life and these pictures will be an important memory of her big day. Hope that her backup did gave her the pictures she deserves.

    For the rest although I admit it seems that both gents seem to have a weak case, but everybody is not guilty until proven guilty. Lets not hang the guy, before you are sure. A woman scorn can be a terrible thing……

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