Anyway, what Petetherock said:
The Air France crash recovery cost $58 million.
Let's hope Malaysia has the funds to find the plane.
Is this calling of no survivors an attempt to cut losses and save $$?
I realised today all the Straits Times were sold out :/ so many people reading this paper all of a sudden?
Don't think MH will be able to fund finding the plane, probably they should count themselves lucky that the insurance companies probably will be picking up the tab. I read on tabloid websites that Malaysia is being criticised for declaring a crash before any debris was found, true?
Dear all, please take it easy. We are supposed to be relaxing at this coffee shop while solving the world's problem. Not create more problems.
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read the news paper… experts says USA knows it 7 days ago… along with malaysia.
Eat breath LIVERPOOL!!!
Najib said Inmarsat never did this before and applied the method for the first time.
That's the problem.
The rest of the world's scientists and mathematicians are not commenting yet.
It seems like some number crunchers worked for Inmarsat & AAIB, under intense pressure to come up with something - anything. They looked at the very sparse data and created formulae to produce pre-conceived answers. Maybe they already wanted the answer to be something and created the method /calculation/process to arrive at those answers.
In some circumstances, the Big Boss of a corporation/ agency already gave strong hints through untraceable ways down the hierarchy to the minions - that he favours a particular result/answer.
This is called graph fitting exercise.
In addition, during the frenzied rush, they may have made serious fundamental flaws in the calculations; or made naive assumptions that do not apply.
Not sure if Doppler effect applies to a satellite reception out in space. Different environment from earth.
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Last edited by daredevil123; 25th March 2014 at 09:20 PM.
Anyway, heard this on BBC over the weekend, thought it was fairly interesting:McLaughlin explains. “It’s been a groundbreaking but traditional mathematics-based process that was then peer-reviewed by others in the space industry, and indeed contributed to by Boeing.”
There's also an article (almost a transcript of the podcast):Could Bayesian statistics find Flight MH370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing? This niche form of statistical modelling has been used to find everything from submarines to missing people. More or Less explores how it was used to locate the wreckage of Air France flight 447 from Brazil to France which disappeared in 2009. This programme was first broadcast on the BBC World Service.
MH370 Malaysia plane: How maths helped find an earlier crash
Boeing (plane manufacturer) & Rolls Royce (jet engine manufacturer) have been exceptionally quiet all this time.
An a UK firm Inmarsat & AAIB are claiming the honours - but if finally the end result is otherwise then their reputation would be ruined.
A comment by someone in DailyMail forum.
In the absence of plane debris and / or passenger remains, that sums up the reaction of the PRC relatives of passengers. The PRC government is demanding the radar data from MLY govt. So that the PRC experts can check it out.
nellyp, Essex, United Kingdom, 17 minutes ago
Really? Those poor families are being told that their loved ones are dead just because they can't figure out what really happened and they are only taking an educated guess in the hope this story will quiet down. I know a lot of people that are NOT convinced this is the truth and that included the families of the missing people. Time the Cabal gave up!
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.....wow I missed anything ?
Shaokenphotos... familiar nick....
Eat breath LIVERPOOL!!!
From a Malaysia source:
马航劫机真相? 马航是被劫持的，且劫机者向马来西亚政府提出了与马来西亚国内政治有关的政治诉求，马政府在接到劫机者的要 求后，经过5个小时的谈判，最后没有答应劫机者的诉求，劫机者在等待无果的同时飞机终于耗尽了燃料&hel lip;… 马政府从始至终都知道飞机在哪里！在得知飞机燃料耗尽后，马政府决定将事件描述成常规航空失事，以避免人道 主义压力，避免国内其他政治力量知道劫机者的政治诉求。 飞机为什么折返马来西亚？因为劫机者的诉求与马来西亚政府有关。 谁是劫机者？机组人员。 劫机者的诉求是什么？ 是要求马政府立即释放政治犯安华--3月7日，马来西亚上诉法庭推翻反对派领导人安华鸡奸案被判无罪的裁决，现年66岁的前副总理安华说，政府 企图用这项指控毁掉他的政治生涯。如果马政府答应释放安华，劫机者会保证飞机安全，并对外宣称飞机出现故障 ，返航降落在马来西亚某个机场，否则将会毁灭飞机。 劫机者为什么关闭与地面导航的通讯联系？ 因为劫机者天真地认为马政府会顾虑230多条生命而答应他们的条件！劫机者是希望活着回去的！于是劫持飞机 后机组关闭了导航通讯，并启动了与马航总部的内部通话设备， 因为在提出诉求前，劫机者不希望导航台知道飞机被劫持，以便马政府答应条件后，飞机能以故障为由体面地降落 。 劫机者为什么一直在飞？因为劫机者一直在等马政府的回复。 为什么马来西亚在失联5个小时后才公布飞机失联？ 因为马政府正在和劫机者讨价还价，这5个小时里飞机并没有失联，马政府与劫机者之间的通讯一直通畅，且马政 府也希望说服劫机者无条件放弃劫机，因此无法发布信息。 事实上，飞机一直就在马来西亚附近 不断地折返游弋，等待马政府的答复。最后才向西北消失在雷达上。 劫机者的政治诉求主要是马来西亚国内事情，因此没有必要飞他国。而且，劫机者是希望政府答应条件，自己能活 着回去的，也不会飞往印度洋或哈萨克斯坦，那样没出路也没必要。但飞到最后油料耗尽了…&h ellip; 当马来西亚政府确认飞机燃料耗尽后，定下策略隐瞒真相，公布了飞机失联信息。接着误导国际社会，制造了努力 但找不到飞机的假象。 马来西亚政府为什么说谎？ 因为劫机者的政治诉求如果被大众知道，会引起政治地震，同时如果让国际社会知道马来西亚政府拒绝劫机者要求 使飞机毁灭，马来西亚将名誉扫地！ 但是，美国已经知道真相。马政府努力把事件伪装成一起普通的航空事故或者一个永远找不飞机残骸的迷，然后赔 偿家属了事。但波音公司受不了，他们不愿背上飞机有质量问题的黑锅，于是波音公司和美国政府公布了飞机在失 联后又飞了5个小时的铁证。在铁证面前，马政府被迫承认是劫机事件，不是飞机技术故障。 事实上，美国早已知道全部真相，包括飞机最后飞到那里，但美国只发布对自己有利的，以此要挟马政府好获取巨 大政治利益
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If someone had hijacked the plane and demanded that jail sentence of Anwar be cancelled, Najib would love it.
Najib would readily agree to the hijacker's terms and announce to the whole world.
So as to discredit Anwar forever and label him as mastermind of hijack, which is a crime.
The idea in the Malaysia source write up is mistaken. The story is too fanciful. Can ignore the story.
Last edited by ricohflex; 26th March 2014 at 06:31 PM.