ClubSnap IP violations

LittleWolf · 20th June 2005

I am saddened to discover that the ClubSnap gallery now serves images with a big fat "ClubSnap" logo superimposed.

This could be interpreted by the viewer as ClubSnap owning the rights to the pictures, or the pictures being advertisements for ClubSnap, neither of which is true. Even if I wouldn't care about these points, the logo spoils the pictures.

Unless someone can point me to the relevant section in the terms & conditions which would allow ClubSnap to do this, I have to assume ClubSnap is violating its licencing terms.

Apart from legalities, I am very disappointed of this blatant disrespect for the works (read: IP) of others.

I still have some hope that all this is a honest mistake that will be corrected quickly.

Cheesecake · 20th June 2005

as with what Littlewolf stated, i share the same sentiments.

Coolsmurf · 20th June 2005

maybe wait for their explanation.

nightwolf75 · 20th June 2005

hmmm. i din notice it until i saw this. why wasn't it make know to us?

kennyleong · 20th June 2005

Originally Posted by nightwolf75

hmmm. i din notice it until i saw this. why wasn't it make know to us?

ya.. totally agree.. why didnt CS tell us..

icarus · 20th June 2005

i will remove all my photos and move them to photobucket liao
logo is too distracting...

Jason Ho · 20th June 2005

Originally Posted by LittleWolf

I am saddened to discover that the ClubSnap gallery now serves images with a big fat "ClubSnap" logo superimposed.

This could be interpreted by the viewer as ClubSnap owning the rights to the pictures, or the pictures being advertisements for ClubSnap, neither of which is true. Even if I wouldn't care about these points, the logo spoils the pictures.

Unless someone can point me to the relevant section in the terms & conditions which would allow ClubSnap to do this, I have to assume ClubSnap is violating its licencing terms.

Apart from legalities, I am very disappointed of this blatant disrespect for the works (read: IP) of others.

I still have some hope that all this is a honest mistake that will be corrected quickly.

The gallery software was recently upgraded due to some previous version bugs. We never have the intention to superimposed any watermark or logo. It could be a option that was automatically enabled by default w/o our notice. In fact if I never read this thread, I never notice it myself too.

I will talk to our server person to get that fix asap.

+evenstar · 20th June 2005

And I thought how come so many people had the time to superimpose a ClubSNAP logo onto their pictures...

Hope the matter gets solved soon

sehsuan · 20th June 2005

honest mistake or not, so long the idea is that the photos, if hotlinked from other IP's, may point people who dont know of CS' existence, to wake up and come to the site. not a bad thing IMHO, but of course, there wasn't any explanation since this was an accident.

don't worry and think of the worst. sometimes it's not a worry at all!

espn · 20th June 2005

Too late, don't think disabling that option will help cos the images seems to have been saved with it.

Also, I'm suprised the software can take the logo, erase the white background and super impose it on the image as an option that can be selected through the software. This is one serious bug man.

Anyway, I'm sure the Admins will get to it immediately.

Jason Ho · 21st June 2005

Originally Posted by espn

Too late, don't think disabling that option will help cos the images seems to have been saved with it.

Also, I'm suprised the software can take the logo, erase the white background and super impose it on the image as an option that can be selected through the software. This is one serious bug man.

Anyway, I'm sure the Admins will get to it immediately.

No images are saved WITH the watermark/logo. If you understand how watermarking works for this gallery case, it basically generates a graphic overlap on top of the original image whenever a image is displayer. The source image file is NEVER altered.

I have been informed the on the fly watermarking is now disabled.

Please inform me if anyone still see that on any images (please clear your IE cache and reload before testing).

Thanks!

tokrot · 21st June 2005

Originally Posted by Jason Ho

No images are saved WITH the watermark/logo. If you understand how watermarking works for this gallery case, it basically generates a graphic overlap on top of the original image whenever a image is displayer. The source image file is NEVER altered.

I have been informed the on the fly watermarking is now disabled.

Please inform me if anyone still see that on any images (please clear your IE cache and reload before testing).

Thanks!

sykestang · 21st June 2005

Hmmm... at least this buggy problem is solved in double quick time after it has been reported....

good for the admins.

LittleWolf · 21st June 2005

Originally Posted by Jason Ho

The gallery software was recently upgraded due to some previous version bugs. We never have the intention to superimposed any watermark or logo. It could be a option that was automatically enabled by default w/o our notice. In fact if I never read this thread, I never notice it myself too.

I will talk to our server person to get that fix asap.

I'm relieved it turned out to be non-intentional. Thank you for fixing it so quickly.

espn · 21st June 2005

Originally Posted by Jason Ho

No images are saved WITH the watermark/logo. If you understand how watermarking works for this gallery case, it basically generates a graphic overlap on top of the original image whenever a image is displayer. The source image file is NEVER altered.

I have been informed the on the fly watermarking is now disabled.

Please inform me if anyone still see that on any images (please clear your IE cache and reload before testing).

Thanks!

That's what I thought of this morning whilst I sat on my toilet bowl.. amazingly (not joking nor sniding), my toilet is the best place where I sort out my thoughts and bugs in my programs.

Great... at least we know the Admins have been working overnight to get it resolved. They're not 24 hour support team ok!

sumball · 21st June 2005

Originally Posted by espn

amazingly (not joking nor sniding), my toilet is the best place where I sort out my thoughts and bugs in my programs.

me too. I read an article tat a survery was done and found out that men can think better in the toilet.

Once I m out of the toilet, all of the ideas are either gone MIA or I forget about the.

togu · 21st June 2005

Originally Posted by espn

That's what I thought of this morning whilst I sat on my toilet bowl.. amazingly (not joking nor sniding), my toilet is the best place where I sort out my thoughts and bugs in my programs.

Great... at least we know the Admins have been working overnight to get it resolved. They're not 24 hour support team ok!

Home sweet home feeling?

Ah Pao · 21st June 2005

More like peace and quiet, with just the occasional "plooms" and "placks"...

afbug · 21st June 2005

Originally Posted by Ah Pao

More like peace and quiet, with just the occasional "plooms" and "placks"...

Prahzz!?!

espn · 21st June 2005

Originally Posted by sumball

me too. I read an article tat a survery was done and found out that men can think better in the toilet.

Once I m out of the toilet, all of the ideas are either gone MIA or I forget about the.

Maybe it's because you're relaxed and just doing your own business

I solved quite a few major bugs sitting on my toilet bowl.

Originally Posted by togu

Home sweet home feeling?

Well, it's only the toilet bowl in my home

20th June 2005	#1
LittleWolf Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,098	ClubSnap IP violations I am saddened to discover that the ClubSnap gallery now serves images with a big fat "ClubSnap" logo superimposed. This could be interpreted by the viewer as ClubSnap owning the rights to the pictures, or the pictures being advertisements for ClubSnap, neither of which is true. Even if I wouldn't care about these points, the logo spoils the pictures. Unless someone can point me to the relevant section in the terms & conditions which would allow ClubSnap to do this, I have to assume ClubSnap is violating its licencing terms. Apart from legalities, I am very disappointed of this blatant disrespect for the works (read: IP) of others. I still have some hope that all this is a honest mistake that will be corrected quickly.

20th June 2005	#2
Cheesecake Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: I live in a haunted house!!!!! Posts: 12,820	as with what Littlewolf stated, i share the same sentiments. __________________ You'll Never Walk Alone! 初恋的感觉杀很大!

20th June 2005	#4
nightwolf75 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: in bet MORE diaper changes... Posts: 14,570	hmmm. i din notice it until i saw this. why wasn't it make know to us? __________________ When did ignorance become a point of view? - Dilbert budget AD/ROM shooter, anyone?

20th June 2005	#6
icarus Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pasir Ris Posts: 3,231	i will remove all my photos and move them to photobucket liao logo is too distracting... __________________ Ricoh GR Digital, Minolta Hi-matic 7SII

20th June 2005	#8
+evenstar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 5,451	And I thought how come so many people had the time to superimpose a ClubSNAP logo onto their pictures... Hope the matter gets solved soon __________________ the SEARCH FUNCTION is there for a reason. USE IT!

20th June 2005	#3
Coolsmurf Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 146	maybe wait for their explanation.

20th June 2005	#9
sehsuan Deregistered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 6,674	honest mistake or not, so long the idea is that the photos, if hotlinked from other IP's, may point people who dont know of CS' existence, to wake up and come to the site. not a bad thing IMHO, but of course, there wasn't any explanation since this was an accident. don't worry and think of the worst. sometimes it's not a worry at all!

20th June 2005	#10
espn Deregistered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Planet Nikon Posts: 22,045	Too late, don't think disabling that option will help cos the images seems to have been saved with it. Also, I'm suprised the software can take the logo, erase the white background and super impose it on the image as an option that can be selected through the software. This is one serious bug man. Anyway, I'm sure the Admins will get to it immediately.

21st June 2005	#13
sykestang Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: studiospace Posts: 5,739	Hmmm... at least this buggy problem is solved in double quick time after it has been reported.... good for the admins. __________________ Gallery: http://sykestang.clubsnap.org/gallery/Photography-Works http://www.studiospace.com.sg

21st June 2005	#18
Ah Pao Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,578	More like peace and quiet, with just the occasional "plooms" and "placks"...