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    This is too difficult to enforce.

    If they show they care by fining people.... it shouldn't work and it do not solve the problem.

    Train too full means capacity is reached. They should not cancel bus routes that run parallel to mrt.

    Now, they should consider running such services during peak periods.

    I just find it ridiculous that they keep asking us to give them ideas. If they want that amount of salary, they need to show they are worth it.
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    first of all, how do u define a train is FULL? if a skinny person can go in without affecting others, it proves that the train is not full..

    sometimes felt that some things they should do well they didn't, things that are not critical, they did it.
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    Just wonder, would one get fine if enter train smelly with sweat?? LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfmoon View Post
    This is too difficult to enforce. If they show they care by fining people.... it shouldn't work and it do not solve the problem. Train too full means capacity is reached. They should not cancel bus routes that run parallel to mrt. Now, they should consider running such services during peak periods. I just find it ridiculous that they keep asking us to give them ideas. If they want that amount of salary, they need to show they are worth it.
    I don't think it is to get the fines.

    If there is no potential stick, all the staff can do is wave their hands in the air. The people who are nice will listen. The people who aren't will just go "haha, what are you going to do? I'll just ignore you."

    Maybe put yourself into the shoes of the staff. If you can say , "Sir, sure, but we will fine you if you continue", that definitely helps with things.

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    I'm surprised that they actually fined somebody for using their AC to charge a handphone?! Singapore Boleh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfmoon View Post
    Boss is ok with it. They just deduct your pay and give you a warning letter.
    ya lor.. boss don't care.. probably suspect you went for an interview so you won't gather any moss lol

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    You see, the problem is they think in silo.

    The makers of the rule forget that on the inside, the entire train is connected. Commuters move from one cabin to the next.

    They cannot just think of 1 particular cabin.

    Removing few persons from cabin #3 will ease congestion for cabins #2, 3, 4 , etc....

    So how does the SMRT officer decide who to eject from the MRT train and which cabin does he choose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    You see, the problem is they think in silo.

    The makers of the rule forget that on the inside, the entire train is connected. Commuters move from one cabin to the next.

    They cannot just think of 1 particular cabin.

    Removing few persons from cabin #3 will ease congestion for cabins #2, 3, 4 , etc....

    So how does the SMRT officer decide who to eject from the MRT train and which cabin does he choose?
    Seriously did you read diver's reply before posting? Its used by officers in case they can't close the door... sheesh

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    The laws are poorly written and enforce.

    They should review them all.

    Our SMRT have rats, it have degenerate from 1st world transport to 3rd world.

    I eats, shoots & leaves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yutaka Go View Post
    The laws are poorly written and enforce.

    They should review them all.

    Our SMRT have rats, it have degenerate from 1st world transport to 3rd world.
    Actually its promoting equality for all kinds of creature, not just human. I'm sure PETA is happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    You see, the problem is they think in silo.
    The makers of the rule forget that on the inside, the entire train is connected. Commuters move from one cabin to the next.
    They cannot just think of 1 particular cabin.
    Removing few persons from cabin #3 will ease congestion for cabins #2, 3, 4 , etc....
    So how does the SMRT officer decide who to eject from the MRT train and which cabin does he choose?
    You are mixing up things that don't belong together. Nothing new, anyway..
    Laws are written in general, with no particular person, transport vehicle or company in mind. They provide a defined baseline about what is right and wrong.
    But a law will never have details how it is actually implemented and enforced, that is responsibility of the respective organizations or companies.
    If you have an idea about a useful implementation of the rule then please write to SMRT. Or maybe just volunteer to work as station staff..?
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    instead of spending efforts in drawing all these "regulations" , why not they spend more time and energy checking their signalling system, train doors etc.. isn't those more important for now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exposure View Post
    instead of spending efforts in drawing all these "regulations" , why not they spend more time and energy checking their signalling system, train doors etc.. isn't those more important for now?
    Did you notice that the regulation is age old, only pulled out recently by someone? (Maybe having too much time or in dire need of some medial attention..)
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    Quote Originally Posted by edutilos- View Post
    Actually, a quick look at the actual Regulations (easily found with a search) reveals that the actual wording is as follows:

    That probably makes more sense, rather than relying on said article. Cheers.
    Don't quite get it... with Regulation 11, why the need for Regulation 12?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edutilos- View Post
    I don't think it is to get the fines.

    If there is no potential stick, all the staff can do is wave their hands in the air. The people who are nice will listen. The people who aren't will just go "haha, what are you going to do? I'll just ignore you."

    Maybe put yourself into the shoes of the staff. If you can say , "Sir, sure, but we will fine you if you continue", that definitely helps with things.
    The fine is to act as a deterrent... that's their mentality... and easy way out...

    They have to resolve the transportation issue, and making us pay more when these issues are still out there is simply... ridiculous...

    In case you guys are still not aware.... GE is usually a 5 yrs period. Year 1 & 2, they tend not to act, as the promise to voters still is fresh to everyone, and wayang, and postpone, etc.... In the 3rd year, the heaviest increases will usually happens, and by year 4 and 5, they will add in some sweetener to try to make the pain bearable... it is a psychological game....

    (If you think I am politicizing every thread, I am sorry, but this is psychological game that is used and I am highlighting the psychological aspect of the game only and why they will use 3rd year for all these.)

    As a commuters, I usually see a lot of space inside, but those people do not want to move in... so can I force my way in since it is not filled? or full?

    Have you encounter "JERKS" who occupy 2 standing space because they watching i-pad? And poke you with their electronic devices? Is there a law against user using these on the Train??

    Are we gonna have CCTV fr every incident?

    If I am late, and they refuse to move in... I could be fired, warning letter, and is SMRT gonna fine me too $500?? It is because after waiting for 3 trains, and I still cannot board it?

    Tell me how retarded this sounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exposure View Post
    instead of spending efforts in drawing all these "regulations" , why not they spend more time and energy checking their signalling system, train doors etc.. isn't those more important for now?
    I saw a notice that they are upgrading the signalling system.... but dunno how long it will take...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfmoon View Post
    I saw a notice that they are upgrading the signalling system.... but dunno how long it will take...

    End of 2015 for N/S... end of 2017 for E/W... all based on NOTHING else happening...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yutaka Go View Post
    In Japan, they are more stress because they need to push people into the train so that the commuters will not be late for work

    Japanese aunties will love it when you are pressed against them in the train?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    Japanese aunties will love it when you are pressed against them in the train?
    I would like to see lots of crushed Ipad, and 7> tablets....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    Japanese aunties will love it when you are pressed against them in the train?
    In view of your propensity for such situations, here is some advice.
    http://www.japantoday.com/smartphone...tmare-in-japan

    Guilty and never proven innocent – every male train rider's nightmare in Japan
    TOKYO —
    Tales of subway groping are unfortunately commonplace in Japan, and anyone committing such a pathetic and cowardly act deserves every punishment given. But what happens if you are falsely accused? Often filled well beyond capacity, there is a real possibility of such a thing happening if you ride the trains running throughout Japan’s major urban centers. No matter your innocence, with a 99% conviction rate should the case go to court, one Tokyo lawyer says the best thing to do if wrongly accused is, run.
    Attorney Takashi Nozawa provides the following advice to anyone who might find themselves caught up in this nightmarish, no-win situation.
    Last edited by An drew; 26th January 2014 at 06:29 PM.

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