FZ5+TCON at wide angle vignetts unsymetric horizontally

Mid · 11th June 2005

Heard the issues about when FZ5 uses with T-CON at wide angle will vignetts horizontally but 'unsymetric', more left or more to the right, is it true..?, is it the same(normal) with all lumix FZ5??, how bout yours??

Thanks

-mid-

vitus · 13th June 2005

Originally Posted by Mid

Heard the issues about when FZ5 uses with T-CON at wide angle will vignetts horizontally but 'unsymetric', more left or more to the right, is it true..?, is it the same(normal) with all lumix FZ5??, how bout yours??

Thanks

-mid-

My FZ5 wit TCON-17 will vignett more to the right at 1X-3X.
But most likely this is due to the weight of the TC that causes the tilt.

tao · 13th June 2005

in the first place, when using a TCON, one should use it with say, 9X to 12X zoom, other wise defeat the purpose of using a TCON right? at 9X to 12X, you will not get any vignetting.

unseen · 13th June 2005

hmmmm isn't it silly to use (say, 1.7x) T-con say at anything less 7X (7X * 1.7 = 12X)?
i zoom in 2X, I will get a better image than u will, using 1X with t-con 1.7X.

now, if using w-con and u get vigenetting, then that's a problem...

tao · 14th June 2005

precisely the point, well said.

normally, if the WCON is a good quality one such as the Olympus WCON08/07, there is no vignetting issue when used with the FZ1/3/5 but I can't say the same for those 'funny' super wide 0.45X~0.6X brands.

Mid · 14th June 2005

Thanks guys...

But how to make a firm connection to the plastic adapter?, is it safe to connect the Oly TCon17 (260gr) to the Hoya hmc UV filter, then the back threads of the UV to the FZ5 adapter? (>>>FZ5's adapter -- HMC UV -- Oly TCon17<<<) , so we can leave the UV permanently as a protector..??? , can we make a strong connection with this scene?, so the plastic adapter is not going tired and wear in too fast.

How deep & secure is the connection between UV and the adater?, I heard that they just have one full turn slide, so I doubt they'll make a safe connect with the TCon17 without modifying the adapter.., But what about others UV filter?, or any other solutions?

-mid-

vitus · 14th June 2005

Originally Posted by unseen

hmmmm isn't it silly to use (say, 1.7x) T-con say at anything less 7X (7X * 1.7 = 12X)?
i zoom in 2X will get a better image than u will using 1X with t-con 1.7X.

now, if using w-con and u get vigenetting, then that's a problem...

Hi
someone jus wat to know whether the vignetts 'unsymetric' normal or not la...

tao · 14th June 2005

Originally Posted by Mid

Thanks guys...

But how to make a firm connection to the plastic adapter?, is it safe to connect the Oly TCon17 (260gr) to the Hoya hmc UV filter, then the back threads of the UV to the FZ5 adapter? (>>>FZ5's adapter -- HMC UV -- Oly TCon17<<<) , so we can leave the UV permanently as a protector..??? , can we make a strong connection with this scene?, so the plastic adapter is not going tired and wear in too fast.

How deep & secure is the connection between UV and the adater?, I heard that they just have one full turn slide, so I doubt they'll make a safe connect with the TCon17 without modifying the adapter.., But what about others UV filter?, or any other solutions?

-mid-

don't do that!!

when connecting the TCON17 to the tube of your FZ5, MUST remove any filters first, otherwise, optical quality will be degraded. in other words, only mount your TCON to the tube and NOTHING else. forget about the UV filter, it won't offer you anything when using the TCON17.

you are right, the plastic tube is quite filmsy, that is a pet peeve of mine when using the FZ3, so when shooting, use your left hand to support the camera by holding onto the TCON17 and the tube together for best stability and reduce stress of the weight.

unseen · 14th June 2005

yeah i'd agree.. one really stupid issue of the FZ5 is the plastic tube.

if i can i really want to machine a metal tube for the FZ5..

FZ5owner · 14th June 2005

Originally Posted by tao

don't do that!!

when connecting the TCON17 to the tube of your FZ5, MUST remove any filters first, otherwise, optical quality will be degraded. in other words, only mount your TCON to the tube and NOTHING else. forget about the UV filter, it won't offer you anything when using the TCON17.

you are right, the plastic tube is quite filmsy, that is a pet peeve of mine when using the FZ3, so when shooting, use your left hand to support the camera by holding onto the TCON17 and the tube together for best stability and reduce stress of the weight.

Wat's the price for the TCON??

tao · 14th June 2005

TCON-17 you mean? Brand new think around $180~200? Can't remember how much I bought mine.

BTW, in case you interested, I am selling mine here. Still very new and clean in mint condition, not used after I sold my FZ3.

tao · 14th June 2005

Originally Posted by unseen

yeah i'd agree.. one really stupid issue of the FZ5 is the plastic tube. if i can i really want to machine a metal tube for the FZ5..

Actually, an alternative adaptor made of a metal alloy is available that enables heavier lenses (such as the TCON-17, described above) to be used without the possible hazard of breaking the plastic adaptor. This alloy adaptor is made in Japan by Mr Yoshida and can be purchased for US$58 from: http://butabara-tec.com/

It is really nice and well made.

Wanted to buy it back then when I was having fun with my FZ3 but gave up the idea when I sold it.

Mid · 14th June 2005

Thx Tao, but I think the included plastic adapter for the FZ3 is a little different with those FZ5, the later being 1mm more recessed at the front before the threads start, and that FZ5 zooming more forward a few mm when at max zoom, from what I heard thought..!?, so I assume that the Mr Yoshida's adpter for FZ3 is not compatible, need your opinion, thx.

Vitus, are you sure that the non symetric only due to TC17 weight causing the tilt?, so can we counter tilt them?, what about other guys experience?

thx,
-mid-

tao · 14th June 2005

You are right. But I think that Yoshida-San will be doing another tube for the FZ5. I suggest you email him to check. Good luck!

Mid · 14th June 2005

Thanks..!, I feel more confidence now..

unseen · 14th June 2005

ya.. it's different..
the adapter, to install, you need to unscrew from FZ3..
FZ5 there's no more screw!!!!!!

dominator · 14th June 2005

should someone email about the alloy adaptor please update here. i had sent email to him before but no reply.
and yes the FZ3 adaptor won't match FZ5.

silvergetz · 14th June 2005

Im interested in getting a metal adaptor for my FZ5 (black, if there is any) as well.
Btw, OT already hehe.

donchua · 14th June 2005

Originally Posted by tao

TCON-17 you mean? Brand new think around $180~200? Can't remember how much I bought mine.

BTW, in case you interested, I am selling mine here. Still very new and clean in mint condition, not used after I sold my FZ3.

I was quoted $147 for Tcon17 few months back by AP but I bought a used
6mths for below $100.

huggable · 15th June 2005

Below is the disappointing email reply from Ryuji Yoshida:

Subject: Re: Adaptor tube for Panasonic FZ5
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:02:54 +0900
From: butabara-tec <info@butabara-tec.com>
To: Alex G

Hello.
The adaptor for FZ5 is not produced.
Moreover, production is not scheduled.

Thank you.
Ryuji Yoshida

Alex G ‚³‚ñF
> Hi, I'm wondering if you make the adaptor tube for the FZ5 as well?
If
> yes how much does it cost to send to Singapore? I would like to get a
> black one.
>
> Thank you.
>

Originally Posted by dominator

should someone email about the alloy adaptor please update here. i had sent email to him before but no reply.
and yes the FZ3 adaptor won't match FZ5.

11th June 2005	#1
Mid New Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 10	FZ5+TCON at wide angle vignetts unsymetric horizontally Heard the issues about when FZ5 uses with T-CON at wide angle will vignetts horizontally but 'unsymetric', more left or more to the right, is it true..?, is it the same(normal) with all lumix FZ5??, how bout yours?? Thanks -mid-

13th June 2005	#4
unseen Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NTU and Wdls Posts: 2,624	hmmmm isn't it silly to use (say, 1.7x) T-con say at anything less 7X (7X * 1.7 = 12X)? i zoom in 2X, I will get a better image than u will, using 1X with t-con 1.7X. now, if using w-con and u get vigenetting, then that's a problem... Last edited by unseen; 14th June 2005 at 01:08 PM.

14th June 2005	#6
Mid New Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 10	Thanks guys.. Thanks guys... But how to make a firm connection to the plastic adapter?, is it safe to connect the Oly TCon17 (260gr) to the Hoya hmc UV filter, then the back threads of the UV to the FZ5 adapter? (>>>FZ5's adapter -- HMC UV -- Oly TCon17<<<) , so we can leave the UV permanently as a protector..??? , can we make a strong connection with this scene?, so the plastic adapter is not going tired and wear in too fast. How deep & secure is the connection between UV and the adater?, I heard that they just have one full turn slide, so I doubt they'll make a safe connect with the TCon17 without modifying the adapter.., But what about others UV filter?, or any other solutions? -mid-

14th June 2005	#14
tao Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Land of the Vegetables Posts: 3,025	You are right. But I think that Yoshida-San will be doing another tube for the FZ5. I suggest you email him to check. Good luck! Last edited by tao; 14th June 2005 at 04:06 PM.

14th June 2005	#17
dominator Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Amazon Forest Posts: 1,636	should someone email about the alloy adaptor please update here. i had sent email to him before but no reply. and yes the FZ3 adaptor won't match FZ5. __________________ Cleanse your thoughts, not by the foods you eat.

14th June 2005	#18
silvergetz Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 860	Im interested in getting a metal adaptor for my FZ5 (black, if there is any) as well. Btw, OT already hehe.