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    OT a bit, I ever saw a program on National Geographic featuring South Koreans travelling to the border between China and North Korea , hoping to see their loved ones by the small river seperating the border. Many North Koreans are looking over the shore but when they see some guys in plian-looking shirts, the people will just move away in fear. The South Koreans who failed to see their loved ones will cry in vain as they do not know the safety of their loved ones within North Korea. Its a real touching program.

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    Currently the world politics is dominated by USA, and USA is "managed" by Mr Bush, and Mr Bush has a team of advisers who are neo-conservatives.

    On the other hand, currently the world economics is dominated by China. Most other Asian countries are also busy making more money nowadays, and (therefore?) USA is heavily in debt nowadays.

    And lets pray there will be no more wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astin
    Currently the world politics is dominated by USA, and USA is "managed" by Mr Bush, and Mr Bush has a team of advisers who are neo-conservatives.

    On the other hand, currently the world economics is dominated by China. Most other Asian countries are also busy making more money nowadays, and (therefore?) USA is heavily in debt nowadays.

    And lets pray there will be no more wars.
    World politic is dominated by power play. Currently, the only superpower in the world is the US. there is currently no opposite faction like in the Cold War Era.

    The world economics is still dominated by the US, which possess the strongest consumers. China is only 2nd but is a super fast growing economy that may match the US soon. Despite the massive US national debt, the US is capable of crushing any real threat decisively in current day and ages. Anybody trying to marginalise the US (which is not possible) in trade or economic sanction will bring about a 2nd great depression.

    Can go into more indepth, any macro economist major here.

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    Look at the bright side, you get to utilize the 1/8000 shutter speed very often of passing jets bombs missiles, endless photo opportunities and becoming a wartime photographer too.......

    At the end, you also get to capture a glimpse of the mushroom cloud and one of the few persons to record perhap the final moment of humanity....

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    emp follows the mushroom cloud and all our CF cards get wiped out, DSLRs fails and only manual film shooters will remain the survivors.
    “How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.” - Adolf Hitler

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanyewkay
    emp follows the mushroom cloud and all our CF cards get wiped out, DSLRs fails and only manual film shooters will remain the survivors.
    really like this statement, paiseh, OT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernard Ong
    The 'Little Boy' Atomic bomb destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki overnight and that was old technology liao. I think 1 nuclear bomb and destroy half the Globe today.
    Its 'Little Boy' and 'Fat Man'

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    Hmmm... You are all assuming that these are RATIONAL PEOPLE/LEADERs. If they indeed are, then, we would not have fought most of the wars before.

    Granted decisions may be made on COST vs BENEFIT, or due to OPPORTUNITY, but most of these wars are started due to EMOTIONS, RELIGION, and/or the absence of HOPE (aka nothing to lose).

    If you want to be feared, have a BIG GUN and be IRRATIONAL. Better still; have many big guns and irrational. As long as they cannot profile what you will/want to do, they (the rational people) cannot safely remove you. North Korea is precisely using this strategy.... Of course, they will have one or two "influential" persons to be the "rational" and "good guy" to give the rational people "hope" that they can solve the problem.

    Is there a way to solve the world's problem? Why? Isn't this "balancing" more fun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanyewkay
    emp follows the mushroom cloud and all our CF cards get wiped out, DSLRs fails and only manual film shooters will remain the survivors.
    Forget it dude. Film shooters will oso have their film 'kena' frm the resulting X-Rays that will render their film useless resulting in nothing but a white piece of photographic paper when developed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Tiger
    Working late today, come back home and watch the 11 pm news; and shock to see that North Korea announce the possession of nuclear weapons.

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    North Korea has a stockpile of nuclear bombs and is building more such weapons, the country's vice foreign minister Kim Gye Gwan said in a US television interview.
    "I should say that we have enough nuclear bombs to defend against a US attack," the North Korean official told ABC News when asked how many nuclear bombs it possessed.



    Enlighten me...how do you defend yourself from a nuclear attack by having nuclear bombs of your own? Won't your country get blasted to pieces first?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caspere
    Is there a way to solve the world's problem? Why? Isn't this "balancing" more fun?
    Some prediction for the next new "world order" will be USA, China, Russia and Europe. If this (really) happens, then we wish there will be "balance of power" and no wars...
    However, Middle East is not very sure, USA defected Iraq and made Iraq a "smaller" and "less power" country, but made Iran and Turkey a "bigger" and "more power" countries, now the neo-conservative advisers in USA must be wondering what to do next...

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    sounds like star wars

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    not really... not when everybody wants to be Jedi!! Even the Chinese and Indians thinks they are more Jedi than Jedi themselves.


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    " The wisdom of mankind coming to nothing"..... if only these money tat is used to make weapons are channeled in making this a better enviroment, this world will be a better place to live in. Afterall, we dun inherit this planet from our parents but we are merely borrowing it from our children..

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    Quote Originally Posted by +evenstar
    Enlighten me...how do you defend yourself from a nuclear attack by having nuclear bombs of your own? Won't your country get blasted to pieces first?
    In the imaginary world, assuming both country A & B have nuclear missile, if country A attack country B with a nuclear missile, country B will respond immediately with a nuclear missile, (in a few minutes) so both country A & B know the consequence of starting nuclear attack, so both country will not attack each other with nuclear missile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astin
    In the imaginary world, assuming both country A & B have nuclear missile, if country A attack country B with a nuclear missile, country B will respond immediately with a nuclear missile, (in a few minutes) so both country A & B know the consequence of starting nuclear attack, so both country will not attack each other with nuclear missile.
    Mutually Assured Destruction, MAD for short. The problem here is that the two boxers in this fight are unevenly matched. One has got a much longer armspan than the other and can hit his opponent without fear of retaliation.

    For a military force that has in the last 4 years postured itself for fighting guerilla-style regional conflicts, the US forces are probably no longer suited to fight an armageddon nuclear conflict even if it is on a local scale (ie, Korean Peninsula).

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    That's why you want to point your missles everywhere else and say so... So that everybody knows nobody can get away clean.. The "affected" parties will want to "talk and talk."

    You do not really have to win, just make sure that everybody loses.... Of course it helps if you are irrational every now and then...

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    One thing I am certain.....

    World Word III will be started by a photographer

    Coz the last one was started by a painter lor

    Ironically, both start with letter 'p' and end with letter 'r'

    And into Art Coincidence ?

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    North Korea hasn't proved extremely rational (relative to today's civil system - being one of the last holdouts of Communism).

    To read into the context of the news article, that North Korea has nuclear bombs suggests that it is a free-fall weapon and not one that can be delivered via means of ICBM, cruise missiles or rockets (yet). Of course, technology advances, and they'll find a means to do it given enough time.

    The US is in a tight spot as well. Officially they've gone to war in Iraq to find the weapons of mass destruction, and of course finding nothing, and so there is the suspicion they were making a grab for Middle Eastern oil. And now that North Korea has openly declared possession of WMDs, the onus is on the US to show a similar consistency in dealing with North Korea as they have with Iraq, and show that they are after WMDs and not oil (since there's little or none in North Korea).
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    They've "mistakenly" shot down an airliner in the past
    Sorry, but I think it was the Russian who shot down the Korean airliner ley

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