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    Do not call registry Exemption Order.

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...nc/935606.html

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    REally stupid is my opinon. Common, I was really looking forward to the DNC registry and now our government comes up with this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dniwkh View Post
    Do not call registry Exemption Order.

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...nc/935606.html

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    REally stupid is my opinon. Common, I was really looking forward to the DNC registry and now our government comes up with this...
    This is a classic example of trying to please both sides.

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    Sitting on the fence. If one registered not to be disturb, then it is up to the respective organization to seek waiver from the telephone number owner before that allowed to SMS. Simple as ABC why complicate it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bukitimah View Post
    Sitting on the fence. If one registered not to be disturb, then it is up to the respective organization to seek waiver from the telephone number owner before that allowed to SMS. Simple as ABC why complicate it?
    agreed. That was what the DNC is supposed to do. But with the exemption order, any companies which you have dealings with can sms you... ie all your insurance companies, credit cards, singtel, M!, etc...

    I think it should be a OPT IN basis. I mean I already registered on the DNC right?

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    No big deal. Nothing to get upset about
    Just a simple "If Then Else" arrangement as in Visual Basic programming.
    Last edited by ricohflex; 28th December 2013 at 10:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    No big deal. Nothing to get upset about
    Just a simple "If Then Else" arrangement as in Virtual Basic programming.
    New language ?

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    Typo.
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    I always feel that using the anti-spam feature on my smart phone is more effective than the DNC.

    Eventually, I believe that they will charge $$$ on those who registered to maintain the infrastructure cost.

    That is what they always do
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreaming View Post
    indeed now i start to doubt
    maybe later, NTUC income would be allowed to contact those on DNC. then the major local BANKs DBS/UOB/OCBC, then oversea bank, then propertyguru etc etc
    May be in the future, they are allow to contact you if they pay the DNC

    Then you pay the DNC a higher amount so that they cannot contact you

    Finally, they pay a higher amount that you paid DNC so that they can contact you

    In the end, the highest payer will win and DNC will laugh all the way to the bank.

    Eventually, everyone will start to ignore DNC and use the anti-spam feature in their smart phone
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    And before DNC really kicks in I have the impression all companies having my hp number do some year end rally in flooding me with text messages.
    What is really questionable is that this exception was not defined in the beginning when the act was passed, but comes piece mail through the backdoor. Smells fishy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    And before DNC really kicks in I have the impression all companies having my hp number do some year end rally in flooding me with text messages.
    What is really questionable is that this exception was not defined in the beginning when the act was passed, but comes piece mail through the backdoor. Smells fishy.
    That's something I'm wondering as well....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    And before DNC really kicks in I have the impression all companies having my hp number do some year end rally in flooding me with text messages. What is really questionable is that this exception was not defined in the beginning when the act was passed, but comes piece mail through the backdoor. Smells fishy.
    Prob some intense lobbying that happened under the table. Mostly to do with the companies refusing to face up to the added costs of running cross checks against the registry.

    Frankly speaking, this exception just made the whole registration for DNC lame since u still have to manually unsubscribe & give the companies 30 days to do so (if they will).

    I'm prepared for maybe CitXbank to SMS me about promotional rates for superbly well valued loans simply because I have a savings account with them.

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    As others have pointed out before in the other thread. If you don't want to receive any call, don't give your number to anyone, better still, don't use phone at all.
    But.. you'll be lonely

    So maybe after we got old and lonely, we give our number freely and get to chat with all those polite telemarketer

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    DNC cannot stop PRC ladies from making cold call, fishing for sugar daddy, trying their luck. It happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithwee View Post
    Prob some intense lobbying that happened under the table. Mostly to do with the companies refusing to face up to the added costs of running cross checks against the registry.
    "Added costs" are a stupid and lame excuse, some form of standard knee-jerk response when some rules come in. It's the same when environmental protection rules get tightened: all companies cry out but finally only use it as excuse to increase consumer prices although the costs might not be higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    "Added costs" are a stupid and lame excuse, some form of standard knee-jerk response when some rules come in. It's the same when environmental protection rules get tightened: all companies cry out but finally only use it as excuse to increase consumer prices although the costs might not be higher.
    I think the industry have calculated the cost of alternative marketing strategy and conclude its cheaper to pay for lobbying

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    Default Re: Do not call registry Exemption Order. Do you support it?

    Im considering writing in via email to the various banks that I may a customer relationship with to tell them that I am opting out right now.

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    I think all this is a farce & waste of everybody's time. Why should it be a opt-out instead of opt-in process where unsolicited mail or spam is concerned??? Unless I ask for or accepted it, why should all these companies sent me all their marketing junk?

    Maybe if all consumers band together to write a huge pile of crap mail & send them to the targetted banks or companies then they would understand what is unwelcomed mail. Or everyone put their phones on repeat to call & jam up the banks' or companies' phone lines so they can understand the frustration & anger of being spammed
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    Seems like we have to continue deleting spam mails and advertisement-related smses.

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    What an efficient government would do is to go the extra mile and make it optional for consumers to choose if they wish to continue receiving telemarketing calls. The agency could have expanded their operations and created a 'call lists' for the consumers to choose which services they want to receive calls and messages from. These companies can refer to the 'database' and select those who wants to receive promotions from them. In the end it will be a win-win as companies can direct their resources at the right market group. But this u-turn is indeed a disappointment.
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