Kodak stops production of SLR/n and SLR/c digital SLRs

Darren · 3rd June 2005

Another one bites the dust?

Kodak has apparently started informing the dealers in North America that their DCS Pro SLR/n and SLR/c DSLRs are no longer being produced and sales will be while existing stocks last. Kodak will be concentrating on the lower end market for point'n'shoots.

News at Rob Galbraith
News at DPReview

Fluorite · 3rd June 2005

Heard that it is quite a good dslr. but unfortunately me $$$ no enough

reno77 · 4th June 2005

I guess it was targetting the wrong crowd. A 35mm camera for studio use when studio guys have invested in Medium format?

Stereobox · 5th June 2005

they manufactured chips for the phase one digibacks..right? i don't know.. just anyhow bom..

Spectrum · 6th June 2005

How can the Americans compete with the Japanese in terms digital products & it's production cost? Japanese are very hard working & innovative people too. Just imagine a country with a population of more than 130 million & with the influence by the Americans since the late 18th century till now. With all this plus points, the Americans have to really work harder, I think?

szekiat · 6th June 2005

without going too far OT, i don't think it is a case of whether americans can compete with the japanese. the kodak is a great camera, and can probably beat most current dslrs within its optimal ISO range. Its only problem is that it is so specialized within that current spectrum. It just can't perform beyond that. America has produced many great products and continue to do so. A firm case being that the best computer chips in the world, whether apple or wintel are still designed in the us. They are also at least a generation in front of others in terms of military designs and innovation. It is a pity that the kodak has to die a death like this but it cannot be reflective of america as a whole. the japanese are not exactly having the time of their lives either.

ricohflex · 6th June 2005

Kodak is good at basic R&D
Heard Oly E300 using Kodak chip
They supply CCDs to other cam makers.
But Kodak poor at translating R&D into consumer product like say, Canon 1Ds Mk2.
USA is leader in technology and camera is too low tech to interest them.
They are into missiles, arms, hydrogen bombs, aircraft carriers, fighter jets, tanks, oil refineries, hollywood blockbuster movies, Disneyland, giant casinos, etc....
Japanese have great attention to detail in consumer goods.
You know it when you handle one of their top cams of yesteryear.
Nikon F2 or Canon F1-N.
Even their packaging is excellent and an art in itself.

hongsien · 7th June 2005

Originally Posted by ricohflex

Kodak is good at basic R&D
Heard Oly E300 using Kodak chip
They supply CCDs to other cam makers.
But Kodak poor at translating R&D into consumer product like say, Canon 1Ds Mk2.
USA is leader in technology and camera is too low tech to interest them.
They are into missiles, arms, hydrogen bombs, aircraft carriers, fighter jets, tanks, oil refineries, hollywood blockbuster movies, Disneyland, giant casinos, etc....
Japanese have great attention to detail in consumer goods.
You know it when you handle one of their top cams of yesteryear.
Nikon F2 or Canon F1-N.
Even their packaging is excellent and an art in itself.

Those americanos did make 35mm cameras (forgot the names.....), and I love their Burp and James and Graflexes!

HS

adam72 · 7th June 2005

well, it is rather sad that kodak's illustrious track record in DSLR is ending. kodak was the pioneer DSLR producer way back in 1990 where the 1.3mp DCS100 was introduced. even earlier on in 1986 the world's 1st 1.4mp CCD was made by them.

but saying that, canon & nikon upsurp kodak and made their own DSLRs. in less than 10 yrs, nikon came out with the D1 in 1999 & canon D30 in 2000.

the passing of kodak's DSLR will definitely be mourned, but the 2 photographic giants, canon & nikon have taken the baton in future DSLRs' production, and this will only benefit current & future digital photogs in the world!

Caussway · 7th June 2005

Most of technologies / foundation of digital devices you enjoy today are invented by americans including the CCD

http://inventors.about.com/od/cstart...ions/a/CCD.htm

sriram · 7th June 2005

Originally Posted by hongsien

Those americanos did make 35mm cameras (forgot the names.....), and I love their Burp and James and Graflexes!

Were you thinking of companies like Argus? Known for their ugly brick shaped cameras?
http://www.cameraquest.com/argc33.htm

hongsien · 7th June 2005

Originally Posted by sriram

Were you thinking of companies like Argus? Known for their ugly brick shaped cameras?
http://www.cameraquest.com/argc33.htm

'Beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder' he!he!

I made many of my famous shots with this brick you know?

ricohflex · 7th June 2005

don't forget Dr. Edwin Land and his Polaroid cameras.
great invention.
Kodak made a SLR in 1950s? now collector's item
US military had cameras and lenses that are used in spy planes 40,000 feet high in the sky. Sharp enough to resolve the rivets on the wing of a Russian jet plane on the ground.

Spectrum · 8th June 2005

You mean the Hubble telescope?

F5user · 8th June 2005

Originally Posted by hongsien

Those americanos did make 35mm cameras (forgot the names.....), and I love their Burp and James and Graflexes!

HS

Those cameras ROCK!!!

AHAHAHA

Burp and james... i think it's Burk? no?

PnS · 8th June 2005

Originally Posted by Spectrum

How can the Americans compete with the Japanese in terms digital products & it's production cost? Japanese are very hard working & innovative people too. Just imagine a country with a population of more than 130 million & with the influence by the Americans since the late 18th century till now. With all this plus points, the Americans have to really work harder, I think?

Very well said, could'nt agree more

sehsuan · 8th June 2005

uh oh. then how about the support for those ProSLR/n/c users out there?

nope, not me, but a pal of mine...

smallaperture · 12th June 2005

This is probably a painful but wise decision by the top brass of Kodak. You need to volume to be able to recoup the R&D cost. So, might be better to move to the consumer cameras that have got some fighting chance to survive. We know that in time to come, film would become a niche product that appeals to the arty-farty so that volume would never be there.

Like to add that US still very strong in IT, in Aerospace, Military and a few other items.

d7t3 · 13th June 2005

even slimmer hopes for those who are dreaming of full-frame F-mount...

3rd June 2005	#1
Darren ClubSNAP Admin Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ClubSNAP HQ Posts: 7,616	Kodak stops production of SLR/n and SLR/c digital SLRs Another one bites the dust? Kodak has apparently started informing the dealers in North America that their DCS Pro SLR/n and SLR/c DSLRs are no longer being produced and sales will be while existing stocks last. Kodak will be concentrating on the lower end market for point'n'shoots. News at Rob Galbraith News at DPReview

6th June 2005	#7
ricohflex Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: sing Posts: 1,540	kodak Kodak is good at basic R&D Heard Oly E300 using Kodak chip They supply CCDs to other cam makers. But Kodak poor at translating R&D into consumer product like say, Canon 1Ds Mk2. USA is leader in technology and camera is too low tech to interest them. They are into missiles, arms, hydrogen bombs, aircraft carriers, fighter jets, tanks, oil refineries, hollywood blockbuster movies, Disneyland, giant casinos, etc.... Japanese have great attention to detail in consumer goods. You know it when you handle one of their top cams of yesteryear. Nikon F2 or Canon F1-N. Even their packaging is excellent and an art in itself.

7th June 2005	#13
ricohflex Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: sing Posts: 1,540	Usa don't forget Dr. Edwin Land and his Polaroid cameras. great invention. Kodak made a SLR in 1950s? now collector's item US military had cameras and lenses that are used in spy planes 40,000 feet high in the sky. Sharp enough to resolve the rivets on the wing of a Russian jet plane on the ground.

12th June 2005	#18
smallaperture Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Catchment Area Posts: 2,423	This is probably a painful but wise decision by the top brass of Kodak. You need to volume to be able to recoup the R&D cost. So, might be better to move to the consumer cameras that have got some fighting chance to survive. We know that in time to come, film would become a niche product that appeals to the arty-farty so that volume would never be there. Like to add that US still very strong in IT, in Aerospace, Military and a few other items. __________________ I love big car, big house, big lenses, but small apertures.

3rd June 2005	#2
Fluorite Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 435	Heard that it is quite a good dslr. but unfortunately me $$$ no enough

4th June 2005	#3
reno77 Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bedok Reservoir Posts: 881	I guess it was targetting the wrong crowd. A 35mm camera for studio use when studio guys have invested in Medium format?

5th June 2005	#4
Stereobox Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cocteau Twins Posts: 2,105	they manufactured chips for the phase one digibacks..right? i don't know.. just anyhow bom..

6th June 2005	#5
Spectrum Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Here Posts: 3,685	How can the Americans compete with the Japanese in terms digital products & it's production cost? Japanese are very hard working & innovative people too. Just imagine a country with a population of more than 130 million & with the influence by the Americans since the late 18th century till now. With all this plus points, the Americans have to really work harder, I think?

6th June 2005	#6
szekiat Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London Posts: 2,378	without going too far OT, i don't think it is a case of whether americans can compete with the japanese. the kodak is a great camera, and can probably beat most current dslrs within its optimal ISO range. Its only problem is that it is so specialized within that current spectrum. It just can't perform beyond that. America has produced many great products and continue to do so. A firm case being that the best computer chips in the world, whether apple or wintel are still designed in the us. They are also at least a generation in front of others in terms of military designs and innovation. It is a pity that the kodak has to die a death like this but it cannot be reflective of america as a whole. the japanese are not exactly having the time of their lives either.

7th June 2005	#9
adam72 Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: behind tiong bahru plaza Posts: 94	well, it is rather sad that kodak's illustrious track record in DSLR is ending. kodak was the pioneer DSLR producer way back in 1990 where the 1.3mp DCS100 was introduced. even earlier on in 1986 the world's 1st 1.4mp CCD was made by them. but saying that, canon & nikon upsurp kodak and made their own DSLRs. in less than 10 yrs, nikon came out with the D1 in 1999 & canon D30 in 2000. the passing of kodak's DSLR will definitely be mourned, but the 2 photographic giants, canon & nikon have taken the baton in future DSLRs' production, and this will only benefit current & future digital photogs in the world!

7th June 2005	#10
Caussway Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 995	Most of technologies / foundation of digital devices you enjoy today are invented by americans including the CCD http://inventors.about.com/od/cstart...ions/a/CCD.htm

8th June 2005	#14
Spectrum Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Here Posts: 3,685	You mean the Hubble telescope?

8th June 2005	#17
sehsuan Deregistered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 6,674	uh oh. then how about the support for those ProSLR/n/c users out there? nope, not me, but a pal of mine...

13th June 2005	#19
d7t3 Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: In the Shepherd's hands Posts: 676	even slimmer hopes for those who are dreaming of full-frame F-mount...