Ads slowing down forums?

espn · 3rd June 2005

Hi,

I have no problems with the main page that doesn't load from ad.sg.doubleclick.net but with the other pages, I find that often, the requests sent gets put on hold for very long time.

Often I see "Connecting to ad.sg.doubleclick.net" or "Waiting for ad.sg.doubleclick.net" and nothing else moves, after several force refreshes using the "Reload" button then the page will successfully load.

Can anybody look into it?

moos blues · 3rd June 2005

same for me (slow loading of ad, holds up stuff) but din't wanna bring it up cos was thinking the ads generate the revenue....

However i feel that the ad service should better than this ya...
Sorry i don't know the arrangement between the ad service and CS, and i hope i'm just nagging...

P.S.
If i vist CS all the time, won't the ad be cached in my sys? why does it take so long ne?

moos blues · 3rd June 2005

Hahaha.... i mean... *i hope i'm NOT just nagging...*

Darren · 3rd June 2005

Thanks for the feedback. I *personally* have not felt any slowdown (I do see the "waiting for ..." status but I have not had the need to click refresh or anything like that - typically the forums pages loads up first, then the ad shows up a little while later.

I have tried on IE, Firefox and Opera, and have not had any slowdown issues.

In any case, we will bring this up with the ad provider and see if anything can be done on their side.

espn · 3rd June 2005

Originally Posted by Darren

Thanks for the feedback. I *personally* have not felt any slowdown (I do see the "waiting for ..." status but I have not had the need to click refresh or anything like that - typically the forums pages loads up first, then the ad shows up a little while later.

I have tried on IE, Firefox and Opera, and have not had any slowdown issues.

In any case, we will bring this up with the ad provider and see if anything can be done on their side.

I've tried it in IE 6 and FireFox 1.04 and is facing these issues, I don't mind the ads, but the waiting time is a bit horrendous, there are times it even timed out and I get an empty document message from the browsers.

It can get pretty annoying when you're typing one long page of essay and crap and you find it unable to go out

Darren · 3rd June 2005

Originally Posted by espn

I've tried it in IE 6 and FireFox 1.04 and is facing these issues, I don't mind the ads, but the waiting time is a bit horrendous, there are times it even timed out and I get an empty document message from the browsers.

It can get pretty annoying when you're typing one long page of essay and crap and you find it unable to go out

If its any help, try tweaking the browser settings in Firefox - Download the Tweak Network Settings extension and set to the following :-

Max Connections : 40
Max Connections per Server : 16
Max Persistent Connections per Server : 16
Max persistent connections per proxy : 16
Enable Pipelining
Enable Proxy Pipelining
Pipelining maxrequests : 8

eric69 · 3rd June 2005

Originally Posted by espn

I've tried it in IE 6 and FireFox 1.04 and is facing these issues, I don't mind the ads, but the waiting time is a bit horrendous, there are times it even timed out and I get an empty document message from the browsers.

It can get pretty annoying when you're typing one long page of essay and crap and you find it unable to go out

If you don't mind, you won't be complaining right? It's like "I don't mind but blah blah blah"... hehehe..

Anyway, I also don't mind but ...

espn · 3rd June 2005

Darren: Maybe I'll try it out on my unix box later and see.

eric69: I said I didn't mind the ads, but I didn't say I didn't mind the response time. Please get your facts right.

Reflection · 3rd June 2005

I tried running Nutscrape and Safari. Nutscrape is slow as hell...like what ESPN experienced. Safari...no issues except on the VERY rare occasion.

nightwolf75 · 3rd June 2005

firefox - so far wat i get is the occasional slowdowns during the day, and failure to load up pages, even after repeatedly pressing F5. have to shut it down and start all over.

IE6 - dun even get me started....

nightwolf75 · 3rd June 2005

this is wat i got.... my page has hung.... have to restart just to type this page...

haiz... i'm outta here...

Stereobox · 3rd June 2005

no probs for me ... so far

firefox 1.0.3, tweaked with "tweak network v1.0" extension

ed9119 · 3rd June 2005

I support ads in forums like Clubsnap.

Apart from the obvious financial help to keep the forum running, advertisers, aside from marketing their products, also help play a role in keeping consumers educated either via advertising or through the many support activities organized for members.

For one, I always assumed that Epson was THE ONE brand to go to for photo printers. With HP's ads plugging their printers in an educated manner, it actually opened my eyes to alternatives.

The trick is for advertisers to inject real education and/or information within the ads to avoid these ads/banners becoming 'junk mail'. Otherwise no matter the size or types of gimmicky graphics used, once a particular advertiser's ads are perceived to be mere advertising trumpets with little substance, few will bother to click thru.

IMHO, so far so good!

espn · 3rd June 2005

Tried Mozilla on Redhat 9.2 also a bit laggi, so I can conclude it's not the system nor browser?

nw75: I know what you mean, I also experience the same.

ed9119: Please, I didn't say I don't support ads. I only ask that the problem be verified as I see "Waiting/Connecting to ad.sg.doubleclick.net" and the page doesn't load. I don't think the ad causes this. Don't make it sound like I'm asking for the ads to be removed. What CS does to generate revenue or income for maintenance I have no interests to care about.

+evenstar · 3rd June 2005

How to tweak network settings after I install the extension?

Stereobox · 3rd June 2005

my browser (firefox 1.0.3) loads the main page instantenously leh..and the ad doesn't pop up at all

i don't browse anymore with IE, so don't know about that.

about the extension, it will come with some profiles (default or power), and some settings you can play ard. i just put it to power.

espn · 4th June 2005

Nope, it's not the mainpage, it's when entering into pages with the ads it slows down. Sometimes press "Reply" can also just wait there.

PhotoDog · 4th June 2005

I don't have any prob leh. Try traceroute to ad.sg.doubleclick.net?

zaxh81 · 5th June 2005

Originally Posted by espn

Nope, it's not the mainpage, it's when entering into pages with the ads it slows down. Sometimes press "Reply" can also just wait there.

i agree when pressing on reply,it will now take longer to return to that page where we were.The page would freeze there.
Please do something mods.

denniskee · 6th June 2005

me too, of late, i get time out problem ever so often.

3rd June 2005	#1
espn Deregistered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Planet Nikon Posts: 22,045	Ads slowing down forums? Hi, I have no problems with the main page that doesn't load from ad.sg.doubleclick.net but with the other pages, I find that often, the requests sent gets put on hold for very long time. Often I see "Connecting to ad.sg.doubleclick.net" or "Waiting for ad.sg.doubleclick.net" and nothing else moves, after several force refreshes using the "Reload" button then the page will successfully load. Can anybody look into it?

3rd June 2005	#10
nightwolf75 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: in bet MORE diaper changes... Posts: 14,577	firefox - so far wat i get is the occasional slowdowns during the day, and failure to load up pages, even after repeatedly pressing F5. have to shut it down and start all over. IE6 - dun even get me started.... __________________ When did ignorance become a point of view? - Dilbert budget AD/ROM shooter, anyone?

3rd June 2005	#11
nightwolf75 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: in bet MORE diaper changes... Posts: 14,577	this is wat i got.... my page has hung.... have to restart just to type this page... haiz... i'm outta here... __________________ When did ignorance become a point of view? - Dilbert budget AD/ROM shooter, anyone?

3rd June 2005	#15
+evenstar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 5,452	How to tweak network settings after I install the extension? __________________ the SEARCH FUNCTION is there for a reason. USE IT!

6th June 2005	#20
denniskee Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: bukit batok Posts: 4,212	me too, of late, i get time out problem ever so often. __________________ photography makes one sees things from all angles.

3rd June 2005	#2
moos blues Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Pasir ris Posts: 681	same for me (slow loading of ad, holds up stuff) but din't wanna bring it up cos was thinking the ads generate the revenue.... However i feel that the ad service should better than this ya... Sorry i don't know the arrangement between the ad service and CS, and i hope i'm just nagging... P.S. If i vist CS all the time, won't the ad be cached in my sys? why does it take so long ne?

3rd June 2005	#4
Darren ClubSNAP Admin Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: ClubSNAP HQ Posts: 7,473	Thanks for the feedback. I personally have not felt any slowdown (I do see the "waiting for ..." status but I have not had the need to click refresh or anything like that - typically the forums pages loads up first, then the ad shows up a little while later. I have tried on IE, Firefox and Opera, and have not had any slowdown issues. In any case, we will bring this up with the ad provider and see if anything can be done on their side.

3rd June 2005	#9
Reflection Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cowtown Posts: 1,130	I tried running Nutscrape and Safari. Nutscrape is slow as hell...like what ESPN experienced. Safari...no issues except on the VERY rare occasion.

3rd June 2005	#12
Stereobox Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cocteau Twins Posts: 2,105	no probs for me ... so far firefox 1.0.3, tweaked with "tweak network v1.0" extension

3rd June 2005	#13
ed9119 Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Singapaore Posts: 1,600	I support ads in forums like Clubsnap. Apart from the obvious financial help to keep the forum running, advertisers, aside from marketing their products, also help play a role in keeping consumers educated either via advertising or through the many support activities organized for members. For one, I always assumed that Epson was THE ONE brand to go to for photo printers. With HP's ads plugging their printers in an educated manner, it actually opened my eyes to alternatives. The trick is for advertisers to inject real education and/or information within the ads to avoid these ads/banners becoming 'junk mail'. Otherwise no matter the size or types of gimmicky graphics used, once a particular advertiser's ads are perceived to be mere advertising trumpets with little substance, few will bother to click thru. IMHO, so far so good!

4th June 2005	#17
espn Deregistered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Planet Nikon Posts: 22,045	Nope, it's not the mainpage, it's when entering into pages with the ads it slows down. Sometimes press "Reply" can also just wait there.

4th June 2005	#18
PhotoDog Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tampines Posts: 136	I don't have any prob leh. Try traceroute to ad.sg.doubleclick.net?