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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuma View Post
    BTW did anyone realize that the Thai Government is almost in risk of bond default because of their very high deficit in the Rice buying scheme?
    So whats your investment advice ?

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    Seem like someone in Thailand want to turn the country into another North Korea

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    Hahaha... my Wifey is Filipino... so, no votes... LOL
    ha ha

    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuma View Post
    BTW did anyone realize that the Thai Government is almost in risk of bond default because of their very high deficit in the Rice buying scheme?
    This is also one of the sources of Thaksin's/Yingluck's popularity. I think there is no clean politics.

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    if you're able to access the Credit Default Swap Market take a position that Thai govt might default. at your own risk and discretion of course .

    I've returned my license to advise
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    No difference from ancient Chinese dynasties. For more than a thousand years, the same scenario plays out. Human nature is human nature.
    In ancient China, sometimes when a reigning king is not in good health and there is a possible succession looming, this sort of thing happens.
    There are under currents of political manoeuvering and tugging of military power centres as various parties prepare for the subsequent all-out power grab.

    Now in Thailand, some elements are going for broke. They want to position themselves before the climatic succession event , so as to protect their privileges, fortune and power. There is no longer any sense of shame. It is blatant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    Now in Thailand, some elements are going for broke. They want to position themselves before the climatic succession event , so as to protect their privileges, fortune and power. There is no longer any sense of shame.
    I think you are absolutely right, they are going for broke this time. It is the climax of a long political battle. Democracy can never be taken for granted, often it has to be paid for in blood.

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    This Abhisit is an utter disgrace to world politics and the Thai people. For the Democrat Party to say they have no faith in the democratic system is like the King saying he has no faith in the monarchy.

    http://news.yahoo.com/thai-oppositio...100009430.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by An drew View Post
    This Abhisit is an utter disgrace to world politics and the Thai people. For the Democrat Party to say they have no faith in the democratic system is like the King saying he has no faith in the monarchy.

    http://news.yahoo.com/thai-oppositio...100009430.html

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    But I do think all of us know the main reason he and the party is boycotting the election has more to do with them, no have the slightest hope of winning... if can't win, might as well make it hard for the ruling Government...

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    They don't want to take part. They tried to prevent other people from registering for elections.

    http://www.leftfootforward.org/2013/...m-in-thailand/
    Last edited by ricohflex; 23rd December 2013 at 11:10 PM.

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    ..

    If this continue and it will.. the country will never prosperous and if it does, it will be very very very slowly.

    Everybody has it own agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuma View Post
    has anyone heard of direct democracy?
    it is what they practice in the Confœderatio Helvetica...
    as a result in one Canton it is illegal to flush toilet after 8 pm
    Direct democracy is a good idea, in my opinion. Only if the people are involved about the decision making then they have no chance to blame anybody else(which is a favourite thing of many).
    In other countries of federal structure (Germany is just next door) such obvious discrepancies would not be possible do to the separation of federal laws and state regulations. But let's be fair to the Swiss guys, the Land of the Free / Home of the Brave has more of such obvious nonsense
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    Cambodia, Vietnam and Myanmar will rise while Thailand continues in a self-destruct mode. The monarchy is silent (sadly mistaken that this will benefit them). The military not assisting the elected PM. The democrat party destroying itself by partnering with a power drunk mobster who openly talks about eradicating an entire clan of people. The bangkok elite businessmen funding the mob, foolishly dreaming that somehow they will profit from this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    Cambodia, Vietnam and Myanmar will rise while Thailand continues in a self-destruct mode. The monarchy is silent (sadly mistaken that this will benefit them). The military not assisting the elected PM. The democrat party destroying itself by partnering with a power drunk mobster who openly talks about eradicating an entire clan of people. The bangkok elite businessmen funding the mob, foolishly dreaming that somehow they will profit from this.
    One would think the richest monarch would be some Sheikh or Emir from an oil rich country. But no. The Thai King is the richest.
    http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/...-in-the-world/
    Billions are at stake here. The monarchy may be silent but it is a very active player in this. The elite cronies have profited and they will continue to profit if they succeed in their attack on democracy. Mai pen rai. It is not our fight but hopefully the common Thai will stand up for what is right.

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    Tomorrow 13 Jan 2014 is the day the lawless mob wants to start shutdown of Bangkok for at least 15 days. It does real damage to the lives of many Thais. The rich Bangkok elite backing the mob thinks Thailand is resilient enough to recover from such self-destruct mode. So they keep doing it to destroy their own country. Glad SG kept its ISA. A thug like Suthep would be arrested and imprisoned under the ISA if anyone tried the same in Singapore.
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    This is all because of MONEY... POWER...

    They do not care for the poor citizens... but only to fulfill their own desire... sad....
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    In some ways, the problems in Thailand mirror that in Rome under Cesar; Thaksin is too popular with the masses, and he decided to break the old system of patronage by putting his people in key posts. The old Oligarchy reacted violently. The middle and upper class in Bangkok want the old system of patronage to continue because it benefits them. Thaksin is thus anathema to them. The poor agricultural class see things the opposite. Thailand was never a democracy. It was really a game of musical chairs amongst the oligarchy elite.

    As for the Thai King, his brother was found shot dead under mysterious circumstances, which is why the current king is king at all. That was under the time when the military were the real force in the country. The notion of respect for the king is quite a relatively new thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    Cambodia, Vietnam and Myanmar will rise while Thailand continues in a self-destruct mode. The monarchy is silent (sadly mistaken that this will benefit them). The military not assisting the elected PM. The democrat party destroying itself by partnering with a power drunk mobster who openly talks about eradicating an entire clan of people. The bangkok elite businessmen funding the mob, foolishly dreaming that somehow they will profit from this.
    Who cares? We should be thankful, because while they bicker about, the less we have to worry about a Kra canal.

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    Another video saying they only believe in democratic elections if they win but would rather not have elections if they can't.


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