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    Relative insists on not returning trays at food courts and hawker centers. Her reasoning: the cleaners will be out of jobs. So the compassionate thing is not to return.

    So what say you?

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    Silly and short-sighted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    Relative insists on not returning trays at food courts and hawker centers. Her reasoning: the cleaners will be out of jobs. So the compassionate thing is not to return.

    So what say you?
    These are the types of people who don't return trays:






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    Returning tray, doesn't shorten my life span, and not returning tray also does not lengthen my lifespan. I'm confused. Shall I return tray or not har?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxshade View Post
    Returning tray, doesn't shorten my life span, and not returning tray also does not lengthen my lifespan. I'm confused. Shall I return tray or not har?
    Returning trays your next life will meet with such happy karma:

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    Default Re: To return or not return trays

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    Relative insists on not returning trays at food courts and hawker centers. Her reasoning: the cleaners will be out of jobs. So the compassionate thing is not to return.

    So what say you?

    Only correct when we should also Steal & Kill so that Police can keep their job... do share your relative address here....

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    Pretty weak reasoning, as Diver-hloc has pointed out.

    Some of the more selfish ones even say it's not their jobs -- it's the cleaners'.

    Clearing your table isn't just to help the cleaners, it's for the sake of the next user too (esp at peak hours). Each of us IS that next user at some point. Do you like clearing the crap left behind by the last guy, esp the messier ones?

    Clear up. It's just good manners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    Relative insists on not returning trays at food courts and hawker centers. Her reasoning: the cleaners will be out of jobs. So the compassionate thing is not to return.

    So what say you?
    so can we don't flush toilets after we used?
    this will help other more people able to get jobs right?
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    btw, why don't we just pee everywhere, save the money building more toilets, just need to hire more cleaners.
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    Most first world nations use disposable and biodegradable bowls and plates.

    It's time we catch up with them.
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    Basically it's all about profits- these smart capitalists wants to increase profits but making use of cleaners and public's goodwill as an excuse. If the food prices are reasonable at $2.50 for hawker food, then I gladly clear trays for them. But they are charging ridiculously high prices for hawker food $4-$9 and thus they better be providing better cleaning services. They tender to pay millions for their coffeehouse takeover fees so don't expect to pass the costs down to us citizens. U expect us to clear trays, u sell cheap. u sell expensive u hire more cleaners- simple. If complain rental expensive, then u choose your government wisely - choose wrong government and everything increase price - ERP, Food, rental, car, minister salaries, etc. Remember the plastic bag saga? Capitalists want to increase profit so they use environment as excuse to stop providing free plastic bags but in the end they still provide but they charge 10c per bags how clever they are. All of a sudden , using 'save the earth ' as excuse, costs plummet and profits go up, and citizens pay more. Now the same is happening with tray clearing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    btw, why don't we just pee everywhere, save the money building more toilets, just need to hire more cleaners.
    I suggest we have holes in the walls along the street for such purpose.
    Last edited by Sion; 3rd December 2013 at 01:01 PM.

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    I'm not defending those who are lazy to return their trays. But police and cleaners have two different master.
    One is the gov, the other is profit seeking private companies/individuals. I have no doubt once they don't need cleaners anymore,
    they will be laid off. Isn't outsourcing already the current norm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    Returning trays your next life will meet with such happy karma:

    Is this journey to the west depiction ? I knew I should be a monk

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    Quote Originally Posted by mettaxu View Post
    Basically it's all about profits- these smart capitalists wants to increase profits but making use of cleaners and public's goodwill as an excuse. If the food prices are reasonable at $2.50 for hawker food, then I gladly clear trays for them. But they are charging ridiculously high prices for hawker food $4-$9 and thus they better be providing better cleaning services. They tender to pay millions for their coffeehouse takeover fees so don't expect to pass the costs down to us citizens. U expect us to clear trays, u sell cheap. u sell expensive u hire more cleaners- simple. If complain rental expensive, then u choose your government wisely - choose wrong government and everything increase price - ERP, Food, rental, car, minister salaries, etc. Remember the plastic bag saga? Capitalists want to increase profit so they use environment as excuse to stop providing free plastic bags but in the end they still provide but they charge 10c per bags how clever they are. All of a sudden , using 'save the earth ' as excuse, costs plummet and profits go up, and citizens pay more. Now the same is happening with tray clearing...
    Capitalism is going to ruin this country one day.

    What we want to do is to turn this country into a big commune where everybody takes turn to work as cleaners in foodcourts.

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    Why can't we have drones returning trays for us?


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    Currently, our existing hawker centres don't have this provision in their design. They are designed to ensure maximum returns on rental. Try returning a tray in Golden Shoe hawker centre. You are lucky you can squeeze pass between the bins and the queue.

    NEA should start some basic design criteria for hawker centre. After so many years operating hawker centres, we still far for the basic needs.

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    I always tell my kids return own trays. Now they return automatically without me telling them.
    One time, the cleaner say i should not do that.
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    I think returning of trays is a win-win situation. Not only does someone else get to use the table soon after we finish, we also get reminded everyday that we need to 'clean up our own ****'. Good lesson in being responsible!

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    Return. as long as the eateries do upgrade the environment to be suitable for tray returns. (More stations , accessible etc)

    These aunties won't be out of a job la aiyo (u still need people to wipe the tables ; have u seen how people mess up their tables ?)

    and really, these is part of good table manners. I make it a point to to return the trays and my friends (sorry haha) to do so too.

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