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    Default 6 years for Germans to build two boats.

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    Won't they be obsolete by the time they arrive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
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    Won't they be obsolete by the time they arrive?

    Buying military hardware is not like buying handphone, obsolete yearly ... look at RSAF's F15SG... the airframe may be old... but the weapon system and electronics are still good and more advance to most planes in our region...

    Same for the Sub... the frame may be old... but who knows what advance system that is hidden inside that body...

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
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    Won't they be obsolete by the time they arrive?
    many ships sailing at the sea now are much older then you and me.

    anyway, all the systems can always upgrade when needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
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    Won't they be obsolete by the time they arrive?
    At least we know Thyssenkrupp doesn't have any links with Hogwart. They build the sub using earthly raw material and took them 6 years.

    In my previous company I work for, a 200+ m tanker took a Jap company 5 yrs to build. I guess the sub is more complicated than a tanker.

    Their 5 yrs forecast in board meeting, always filled with new tankers name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
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    Won't they be obsolete by the time they arrive?
    Well, a submarine is not a car and it takes a bit more to build one. There are not produced and stacked and stored somewhere.
    Secondly: Singapore is not the only one ordering this type of ships. So the 6 years might just consist of some waiting time.
    Go a bit easy on your assumptions ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
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    Won't they be obsolete by the time they arrive?
    You were born decades ago. By your same argument you're now obsolete in the workforce

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    You were born decades ago. By your same argument you're now obsolete in the workforce
    That's why now I semi retire, and beo xmm kei frequently...
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    That's why now I semi retire, and beo xmm kei frequently...
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
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    Won't they be obsolete by the time they arrive?
    I hv confidence in German technology.

    The rocket invented by von Braun is still in use today.

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    Default Re: 6 years for Germans to build two boats.

    Quote Originally Posted by diver-hloc View Post
    Buying military hardware is not like buying handphone, obsolete yearly ... look at RSAF's F15SG... the airframe may be old... but the weapon system and electronics are still good and more advance to most planes in our region...

    Same for the Sub... the frame may be old... but who knows what advance system that is hidden inside that body...
    Agree. D70 with a D4 sensor.
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    Default Re: 6 years for Germans to build two boats.

    The initial Sjöormen class SSKs was already more than 32 years old when recomissioned as the Challenger class and thus in service for approximately 47 years.

    This is hardly surprising as the RSN has an excellent relationship with Kockums, a subsidiary of ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) going back all the way to the early '90s if not for the fact TKMS actually barred Kockums from exporting not too soon after it was brought over just several years ago. Anyway an excellent rule of thumb is as long as the Israelis has them (new Dolphin Mk. II class SSKs based on similar designs), chances are that we will be getting our hands on it too. Looking forward though to the day when we eventually fabricate possibly our own A26 class right here in the Singapore Technologies (ST) Marine, Benoi shipyard.
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    The German will install Leica lens periscope for our submariners to look at bikini babe at the beach while underwater


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    A typical car dealer make 15-30% margin. Someone is getting very fat cheque from this deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahboy168 View Post
    A typical car dealer make 15-30% margin. Someone is getting very fat cheque from this deal.
    Yeah so? Think they are a charity?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahboy168 View Post
    A typical car dealer make 15-30% margin. Someone is getting very fat cheque from this deal.
    Just that only a fraction of it arrives in the dealer's wallet. There are more bills to pay before that ..
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    Yeh should ask Lim Swee Say to go Germany and give his better, faster, cheaper speech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
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    Won't they be obsolete by the time they arrive?
    Might be.. but I'd put my bet on the german boats against a chinese sub made in a year

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2xpeter View Post
    I hv confidence in German technology.

    The rocket invented by von Braun is still in use today.
    It's not entirely German ?

    "ST Electronics, a part of the ST Engineering group and Atlas Elektronik will co-develop tailor-made combat system for the submarines."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kklee View Post

    It's not entirely German ?

    "ST Electronics, a part of the ST Engineering group and Atlas Elektronik will co-develop tailor-made combat system for the submarines."
    Correct. Because of proprietary technology that SG has in it's ships (mostly software).
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    ST? Proprietary technology? Omg. Give me a break! Really spoil the soup with these 2 ingredients added. LOL

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