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    Just came across a FB post by a school asking its alumni if there's any scholars. Probably for school branding.

    I'm sharing my stand and I'm kinda disappointed by it. Any comments ?

    And for fairness , I'm disclosing that I'm a govt scholarship holder and I'm thankful for all the help and opportunities given but given this day , are govt scholarships still a barometer of personal ability and potential for excellence ?

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    I don't see the issue with scholars. They are supposed to be the top performers of their cohort, and are thus rewarded with scholarships. What is wrong with that?
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    Nope u r right in that sense. Just that what probably affected me was that that action prob implied that the school saw a need to show it had produced scholars in order to qualify it for a 'good' school.

    Or maybe I'm just too free on a Tuesday afternoon la haha.

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    Like it or not it's the scholars who hold the destiny of this great nation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by keithwee View Post
    are govt scholarships still a barometer of personal ability and potential for excellence ?
    It would be a labour of great strain to discuss if it is or is not, no correct answer to be had. I would think it opens up opportunities and exposures for the recipient.

    At the end of the day, you would have to look inward to see how far you would drive yourself ahead in the journey, instead of assuming that a scholarship holder to be a surrogate for success/excellence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithwee View Post
    Nope u r right in that sense. Just that what probably affected me was that that action prob implied that the school saw a need to show it had produced scholars in order to qualify it for a 'good' school.

    Or maybe I'm just too free on a Tuesday afternoon la haha.
    Haha! You're too free lah.

    A school will be defined by its students, so I suppose academic excellence is an easy way for a school to distinguish itself as a good school.

    I believe the current push is for schools to discover their niche, and to develop in that aspect. Still, there will be some who are better than others.

    So the search of scholars is perhaps an easy way for the school to sell itself.
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    without scholars, no one will show us how to commit Breach of Trust, especially in Higher Office

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    Quote Originally Posted by keithwee View Post
    And for fairness , I'm disclosing that I'm a govt scholarship holder ...
    Quote Originally Posted by keithwee View Post
    Or maybe I'm just too free on a Tuesday afternoon la haha
    You just proved scholars are irrelevant. Especially on Tuesdays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchRival View Post
    You just proved scholars are irrelevant. Especially on Tuesdays.
    Tuesday is Scholar's offday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    without scholars, no one will show us how to commit Breach of Trust, especially in Higher Office
    If you want to be Scholar please look like a Scholar:


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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchRival View Post
    You just proved scholars are irrelevant. Especially on Tuesdays.
    Haha, good point

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    scholars must never be bogged down so deep in theory that they ignore practical issues and real life situations on the ground

    and remember, intellectual ability has no correlation to the quality of a person's character. we all have to prove it to ourselves
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizuma View Post
    scholars must never be bogged down so deep in theory that they ignore practical issues and real life situations on the ground

    and remember, intellectual ability has no correlation to the quality of a person's character. we all have to prove it to ourselves
    Aye aye! Hear hear!

    The Scholar has spoken!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    Aye aye! Hear hear!

    The Scholar has spoken!


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    One thought is for branding/marketing, but unless you know their intentions, could also give them the benefit of the doubt that their request might also just as well be for other reasons.

    - Schools sometimes invite alumni who've 'made it' (however they may choose to define it) back to speak to students. This can give current students role models to aspire to.
    - Perhaps there are a good number of students interested about scholarships. If there are alumni who are recipients, perhaps they may be a good resource for the students, whether it be via a talk or interview (school newsletter etc). Students may relate to seniors better compared to teachers.

    Quote Originally Posted by keithwee View Post
    And for fairness , I'm disclosing that I'm a govt scholarship holder and I'm thankful for all the help and opportunities given but given this day , are govt scholarships still a barometer of personal ability and potential for excellence ?
    Don't see why not? What has changed 'given this day'? Unless they've lowered the barrier and significantly increased the number of recipients* compared to the past, to an outsider like me, it still sounds like an achievement any recipient can be proud of.

    *There were 62 PSC scholarship recipients in 2012, according to: http://www.psc.gov.sg/content/dam/ps...ort%202012.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sion View Post
    Like it or not it's the scholars who hold the destiny of this great nation.
    What are you smoking? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    without scholars, no one will show us how to commit Breach of Trust, especially in Higher Office
    You mean how not to do it cos their method didn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qystan View Post
    What are you smoking? Lol
    Singapore's finest tobacco.


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    These people are all scholars. The subject of their study is the form of the horses.


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    Thanks Kandinsky for the good points and everyone else who made the thread a fun one to read haha.

    This Kopitiam is really more fun than the misc forums on HWZ.

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