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    Wonder how to defuse this tension.

    It is dicey to spy on a friendly country's president.

    It is definitely wrong to spy on his wife as well. That crossed the line. Never attack the family.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...119-2xs1o.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    Wonder how to defuse this tension.

    It is dicey to spy on a friendly country's president.

    It is definitely wrong to spy on his wife as well. That crossed the line. Never attack the family.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...119-2xs1o.html
    Sheesh

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    Please la.. Indon politicians have nothing important to be spied on..
    Last edited by hanzohattori; 19th November 2013 at 10:31 PM.

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    SBY handling it all wrong...

    when the Russians taped Sukarno screwing a beautiful Russian spy in Moscow...... Sukarno just thanked them and asked for a copy of the tape for his viewing pleasure later

    Anyway behind all this its the US spying on prominent indonesians .... via its Aussie dingo proxy

    Countries should pay more attention to cyber and IT defence ... even LHL got hacked recently
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    He does scold ministers who fall asleep during meetings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post
    Wonder how to defuse this tension.
    It is dicey to spy on a friendly country's president.
    It is definitely wrong to spy on his wife as well. That crossed the line. Never attack the family.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...119-2xs1o.html
    What's new about that? I would be rather surprised if AU did not such things on behalf of US.
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    While, Everybody spied on everybody... is just Hard Truth.

    BUT... the point is NOT TO GET CAUGHT DOING SO.... Aust wants to be the point-man on behalf of the US, they'll now have to reaped the fallout. Personally... don't see why its wrong for SBY to get angry... its one thing to spy on Indonesia's military capabilities or its internal politics... but its a whole new game if you tap his personal phone...

    Wonder how would Obama, David Cameron or even Tony Abbott, and the citizens of these countries, would feel if it was leaked that China has been listening to their private conversations with their family members and friends... I'm sure 'Double Standard' will come to mind...

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    Quote Originally Posted by diver-hloc View Post
    ... but its a whole new game if you tap his personal phone...
    Maybe it looks so if one assumes a strict separation of politics and private life.
    But: is this really the situation in Indonesia? Isn't it rather that many agreements and handshakes are done in private (with the respective financial or other rewards), leaving people puzzled (or screaming) about the rational of certain decisions, agreements and actions? So it makes sense to me that they tapped his private phone as well, just to have a complete picture.
    In UK they left the dirty job of phone tapping to a newspaper, now closed down.
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    It is Art of War. LOL

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    know your enemies and you will win all battles.

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    These guys don't read Tom Clancy, or watch '24' ah? I thought everybody spied on everybody. And embassies always seem to be at the middle of it all. No difference between personal and professional life -- any ammo they can gather on you could be used against you. In fact, the personal stuff is often valuable for blackmail, except perhaps in Sukarno's case
    Would the Indons be less offended if the Aussies were spying for themselves, and not on behalf of the US? Maybe it would matter the Aussie citizens, but to the Indonesians?
    The really laughable response was the hacking of the Aussie business sites by Anonymous Indonesia. What? Couldn't get through the govt IT security so they took on suppliers of dangerous bouncy castles? No wonder they want to remain anonymous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    Maybe it looks so if one assumes a strict separation of politics and private life.
    But: is this really the situation in Indonesia? Isn't it rather that many agreements and handshakes are done in private (with the respective financial or other rewards), leaving people puzzled (or screaming) about the rational of certain decisions, agreements and actions? So it makes sense to me that they tapped his private phone as well, just to have a complete picture.
    In UK they left the dirty job of phone tapping to a newspaper, now closed down.
    Yeah it is, anyway, all is fair in love and war. Interestingly some of the latest corruption scandals is involving either sing $ or meeting here, or both

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    In a clash between nations, it is unusual for the leader of a country to issue statements personally through social media; instead of the government machinery.

    Now that Indonesia has scrapped cooperation with Australia to police the refugee/asylum-seeker boats, later on there will be thousands of refugees in boats off Australia's shores. The Australian citizens will give Tony Abbot hell over that.
    Last edited by ricohflex; 20th November 2013 at 09:50 PM.

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