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    Default Question: Singapore diesel car can pump in Malaysia?

    Can a diesel powered car (not a lorry or pickup but a passenger sedan) used here pump up in Malaysia? I heard the grade of diesel is different. Also, is it subjected to the "cannot pump full tank" rule?

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    Default Re: Question: Singapore diesel car can pump in Malaysia?

    Malaysian diesel is Euro IIM grade. Modern diesel vehicles here are of Euro V grade. Pumping lower grade diesel will cause your diesel particulate filter to be clogged more easily(and whatever else the manufacturer claims). Once or twice is okay but frequent use will cause black sooty exhaust.

    The BMWs and Mercedes diesel cars sold in Malaysia has their DPF removed at factories to handle the 2M diesel.
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    Default Re: Question: Singapore diesel car can pump in Malaysia?

    Quote Originally Posted by eosdigital View Post
    Malaysian diesel is Euro IIM grade. Modern diesel vehicles here are of Euro V grade.
    Diesel grade #1 and #2 refer to the fuel.
    Euro V (and its predecessors Euro I to Euro IV) refer to the European regulations about maximum levels of pollutants emission.
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    Default Re: Question: Singapore diesel car can pump in Malaysia?

    malaysia diesel is lower quality.
    can use but try not to do it too often.

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    Fuel is fuel. All petrols are the same. Similarly, all diesels are the same. The difference comes from additives. It does not make it a higher or lower grade. If you look/listen carefully, higher grade is never mentioned. Things like octane and cetane come from the additives and does not make the fuel better or higher grade than the next. It whether which is more suited for the engine you have. Check the owners handbook. Too high octanes may actually work against you. Other additives are cleaning agents etc.

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    Default Re: Question: Singapore diesel car can pump in Malaysia?

    Quote Originally Posted by qystan View Post
    Fuel is fuel. All petrols are the same. Similarly, all diesels are the same. The difference comes from additives. It does not make it a higher or lower grade. If you look/listen carefully, higher grade is never mentioned. Things like octane and cetane come from the additives and does not make the fuel better or higher grade than the next. It whether which is more suited for the engine you have. Check the owners handbook. Too high octanes may actually work against you. Other additives are cleaning agents etc.
    Just Google 'Diesel grades', please And drop octane numbers of you talk about Diesel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    Just Google 'Diesel grades', please And drop octane numbers of you talk about Diesel.
    Yep. Confirms there isn't such a thing as higher or lower grade diesel.

    Just different grades.

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    [SINGAPORE] Despite the lower fuel cost and higher performance of diesel-engined cars, owners of such vehicles are advised to enjoy these advantages only in Singapore and not across the Causeway because of the big difference in diesel fuel quality.

    New diesel-engined passenger models sold in Singapore are Euro 5-compliant and the ultra-low sulphur diesel sold at the pumps here contains only 50 ppm (parts per million) of sulphur. This specification is compliant for use in Euro 5 diesel engines.

    On the other hand, diesel fuel sold in Malaysia is Euro 2 compliant, with 500 ppm. Euro 4 standards with 50 ppm are expected to be implemented in 2015.

    "It is not recommended for the new Kia Sorento Diesel to use Malaysian diesel as it is of a much lower grade," says Chin Kee Min, senior manager of authorised Kia distributor Cycle & Carriage Kia. "If lower grade diesel is used, it may cause engine clogging and misfiring issues, and perhaps other related problems as well."

    A workshop manager who did not want to be named said that if the wrong diesel specification - such as one with high-sulphur content - is used "persistently", it could risk clogging the diesel particulate filter and may also cause engine damage.

    "If there is a need to fill the tank, do not overfill but have enough to get across to Singapore and then refuel with better quality diesel in Singapore," he said.

    He explained that using lower quality diesel may result in some "light smoke from the exhaust" as a result of the high sulphur content.

    "It is also advisable to run the vehicle with the better quality diesel at expressway speeds for at least 20 minutes so the diesel particulate filter can regenerate itself. When in doubt, take the vehicle back to the dealer for a proper check," he added.

    As for loading a jerry can with diesel from Singapore and carrying it with you for trips up north, the workshop manager does not recommend it.

    He explains: "For safety reasons, this is not advisable."

    Then again, the superb fuel efficiency of a diesel-engined car may not require most owners to fill up in Malaysia at all.

    A Wearnes Automotive spokesman says that with a full tank of diesel, the Jaguar XF 2.2D will be able to travel "over 1,000 km".

    "An owner is likely to be able to make a short trip to Kuala Lumpur and back with no difficulty," he said. "However, if absolutely necessary, customers are advised to top up only sufficient diesel to travel back to Singapore and not to fill up a full tank."
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    Default Re: Question: Singapore diesel car can pump in Malaysia?

    Of course, otherwise some taxes would remain on the wrong side of the causeway
    And justifications with lots of 'would', 'could' and 'should' only smell of lawyers ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    Of course, otherwise some taxes would remain on the wrong side of the causeway
    And justifications with lots of 'would', 'could' and 'should' only smell of lawyers ..
    eosdigital already pointed out benz/bmw imported into MY have to be modified to handle the local diesel.

    i had a relative move back to KL from UK. brought along his range rover diesel car, though we all told him the diesel in MY is not suitable.
    he brought it over anyway and his car had to be serviced more regularly than when back in UK.

    then again YMMV.

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