22nd May 2005, 01:29 AM
22nd May 2005, 01:37 AM
hope both arsenal and man utd will give chelsea stiffer competition next season.this season both teams have been comprehensively overshadowed by chelsea..to the extent i was thinking of cancelling my scv subscription..
22nd May 2005, 01:38 AM
Wooooot!! the force is with us!!
22nd May 2005, 01:45 AM
WHY MAN UTD LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
btw i am a red.... (no devil)
22nd May 2005, 02:32 AM
Aresenal's game plan seems to be holding out for draw from the 1st whistle...they must have been praticing hard for penalties all the way. Look at the way they play during the 1st 120mins, and the confidence they had during penalty shootout.
22nd May 2005, 02:38 AM
Originally Posted by kenshinz
22nd May 2005, 03:34 AM
22nd May 2005, 03:39 AM
22nd May 2005, 04:20 AM
22nd May 2005, 04:59 AM
The expressions on the faces of Alex Ferguson and Roy Keane at the end of the match were priceless.
It's hard to understand how Arsenal will get anywhere with a crappy team like theirs for the forseeable future. They absolutely need to buy much better players than they have now.
Their defence is terrible, they have no penetration or ideas up front at all when Henry doesn't play (not just in this game either), Bergkamp *really* needs to go (only usable against weak teams), Pires is past his use-by-date, Viera should be traded when they can still squeeze some money from his transfer (the guy has no more inspiration to provide), Lehman should be replaced - he's a clown of a goalkeeper, sell off Ashley Cole because he's far far overrated (that shorty Korean fullback, Lee, from PSV for instance is much better IMHO). Maybe they should trade Cole for Gallas and lots of top-up money with Chelsea since the latter thinks so highly of him. IMO, Gallas playing out of position as a fullback is a much better fullback than Ashley Cole, and at least Gallas knows how to tackle ;-) FWIW, they really shouldn't have sold that Ray Parlour (doesn't the guy work cheap anyway?) because every now and then, they need his kind of fight-for-every-ball lung bursting work rate.
Hell, I am a fan of neither team but it's obvious that Man U, despite their crappy recent form is still a much more potent football force than Arsenal. It's going to be fun to watch Arsenal screw up in the Champions League again next season. They just don't have the substance, when push comes to shove.
As a non-partisan observer of English soccer, and as much as I hate to say it, I think Chelsea is the only team in the EPL that has the all-round game to take on any team from any continent. They are miles better than Arsenal, and some distance ahead of Man U.
Last edited by kahheng; 22nd May 2005 at 05:52 AM.
22nd May 2005, 11:33 AM
As much as I felt Lehman was a dodgy keeper in the past, I must say he did very well in the match...in fact he saved Arsenal's butt more than a few times with his reflex saves.
22nd May 2005, 11:36 AM
22nd May 2005, 11:27 PM
sianz..why Man-U didnt win.
22nd May 2005, 11:34 PM
Well I agree that Arsenal were second best during the final and in a sense, it's 'murder' for Arsenal to walk away as FA Cup Champs ... well that's football.
However to say Arsenal have a 'crappy team' which has no future based on the certain games which they played poorly this season, IMO it's also 'murder' ...
Originally Posted by kahheng
23rd May 2005, 12:14 AM
Don't worry about it, that's kahheng's usual hardcore stance......
Originally Posted by Adam Goi
23rd May 2005, 12:21 AM
i must be the saddest person in the world right now..
United played well and had the lion's share of possesion and chances, but they just couldn't convert those chances.
and even though it appeared as if Arse played for a draw, i won't take away credit from them. a win is still a win. and to win against the odds as they faced, still requires skill.
trying replacing them with our national team and ask them to play for a draw in that situation.
to arsenal for their victory. till the next season and more good football ahead.
23rd May 2005, 12:31 AM
hah? like dat already think of cancelling subscription ah? keep watching for the love of soccer man!
Originally Posted by novello76
23rd May 2005, 01:36 AM
Hahahaha, "murder" is when death actually occurs. I just call it as I see it.
Originally Posted by Adam Goi
I didn't say Arsenal have no future, period. They need to change things and bring in new blood if they are to get out of their malaise.
It *is* based on certain games played (not just this season mind you), because it's when push comes to shove in these games against really strong teams that you can actually see whether a team has the ability or not.
The thing is, the first three teams in the EPL are so far ahead of the rest of the pack, that their beating any team out of the top three consistently is frankly no big deal - it's a wealth and thence, talent gap that can never be made up for by the lower teams through grit. [It's something wrong if they don't consistently beat the lesser teams.]
Last edited by kahheng; 23rd May 2005 at 04:32 AM.
25th May 2005, 12:29 AM
25th May 2005, 12:51 AM
i agree with what you said except for this.
personally i think its a very nice gesture on their part. liverpool did that once when arsenal won the double. its nothing to do with pride. its to do with respect for your opponents.
Originally Posted by FLiNcHY