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    Quote Originally Posted by WBalance
    Most motorist and motorcyclist develop dangerous/poor habits only after they pass their test. So it's not fair to pin it on the tester/instructors

    2: I remember clearly during driving lessons that when making a right turn, the car on the rightmost lane(lane 1)is suppose to turn into the rightmost lame, while the car on the left is suppose to turn into lane 2. The first week after I passed, I applied what I learnt. However the first car on the right turned into lane two, forcing me into lane 3. He even honked at me for trying to cut into his lane.

    I went home to check my book to confirm that I was right. However a check with my dad(whose been driving for years) said that most cars like to make wide turns
    that why recently that video sharing around which the one who took the video made mistake yet he/she posted the video claiming other driver was wrong. And yet there quite few comments saying that the one who took the video is Right !?
    Worst is there marking line on road already yet still wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huatman View Post
    that why recently that video sharing around which the one who took the video made mistake yet he/she posted the video claiming other driver was wrong. And yet there quite few comments saying that the one who took the video is Right !?
    Worst is there marking line on road already yet still wrong.
    everyone's right in their own sight

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    everyone's right in their own sight
    For those who did parent volunteer as traffic marshal, would know most people are selfish, inconsiderate shat bags.

    Quote Originally Posted by WBalance View Post
    Most motorist and motorcyclist develop dangerous/poor habits only after they pass their test. So it's not fair to pin it on the tester/instructors
    No, there's nothing wrong with their instructors. It's totally up to the individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxshade View Post
    For those who did parent volunteer as traffic marshal, would know most people are selfish, inconsiderate shat bags.
    Thanks for restoring my faith in humanity

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    Quote Originally Posted by hanzohattori View Post
    Thanks for restoring my faith in humanity
    Oh don't worry about humanity and love. I've got good example of it.

    A loving dad dropped of his daughter. The daughter told the dad that she loves him. The dad repeatedly asking the daughter to say it louder. Isn't in lovely?



    While his car's butt was sticking out, blocking another lane causing jam on both lanes. That's love and humanity.

    And I passed the patience test for not committing road rage in front of kids.
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    Oh don't worry about humanity and love. I've got good example of it.

    A loving dad dropped of his daughter. The daughter told the dad that she loves him. The dad repeatedly asking the daughter to say it louder. Isn't in lovely?

    While his car's butt was sticking out, blocking another lane causing jam on both lanes. That's love and humanity.

    And I passed the patience test for not committing road rage in front of kids.
    He should have just sold her to the Roma
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    I'm just amazed. Some people just don't get it. When you are on 2 wheels, you are the most vulnerable on the road. Period. Most of the time, common sense prevail. If you can't acknowledge the fact that things you do are dangerous, god bless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    He should have just sold her to the Roma
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...bducting-maria

    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by WBalance View Post
    Most motorist and motorcyclist develop dangerous/poor habits only after they pass their test. So it's not fair to pin it on the tester/instructors

    motorcyclist were suppose to use the lanes like cars, riding in between lanes and sneaking into a car's blind spot is very dangerous.

    I share two personal experience:
    1-Once at a traffic junction, there were two turning left lanes with me on the leftmost and there was another car on my right(trying to turn left as well). As he was leaning very close to my lane,so I had to make a sharper left turn so that I wouldn't collide with the car. At this time, a motocycle sneaked up on my left. as my attention was on the car on my right I almost banged into the motorcycle on my left. The rider then honked me and put up his fist in retaliation.
    The rider should have stayed in lane and wait his turn to make the left turn. I did check for a safe clearance before turning left but the rider just sneaked up in split seconds while I was checking my right side

    2: I remember clearly during driving lessons that when making a right turn, the car on the rightmost lane(lane 1)is suppose to turn into the rightmost lame, while the car on the left is suppose to turn into lane 2. The first week after I passed, I applied what I learnt. However the first car on the right turned into lane two, forcing me into lane 3. He even honked at me for trying to cut into his lane.

    I went home to check my book to confirm that I was right. However a check with my dad(whose been driving for years) said that most cars like to make wide turns
    I agree motorcyclist pick up bad habits along the way...

    This, I think that is because lesser and lesser TP are around... enforcing.... our motor vehicles population has exploded... and I usually see TP for escort duties mostly.... and their focus is more on drink driving.. not that it is not good.... but they also should catch those road hoggers, and not only speeder and modified cars.... and educate those drivers.... well. easy for me to be a key board warrior...
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    I agree motorcyclist pick up bad habits along the way...

    This, I think that is because lesser and lesser TP are around... enforcing.... our motor vehicles population has exploded... and I usually see TP for escort duties mostly.... and their focus is more on drink driving.. not that it is not good.... but they also should catch those road hoggers, and not only speeder and modified cars.... and educate those drivers.... well. easy for me to be a key board warrior...
    Riding in-between lanes is still safer than drivers who constantly try to force you out of tge lane, even though they know you're there. That in itself is an act of a road bully.

    Anyways, these days it's easier to station an officer along the road to snap photos than to ride with traffic. Furthermore, with expressway upgrading going on, there isn't any road shoulder to stop vehicles on, for most of the areas. And usually i notice they'll be around mostly during off-peak hours

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    Best is to ride in the middle of the lane at the correct speed, just like how a car will occupied the lane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by airfins View Post
    Best is to ride in the middle of the lane at the correct speed, just like how a car will occupied the lane.
    the only danger are those drivers and bikers who change lanes without warning.


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    I drive differently in malaysia and singapore as we adapt to our environment. Singapore drivers are really extreme .... Either Sleeping on the road or rushing for toilet to poo.

    It is actually feel safer to drive in malaysia.
    Just an example:In singapore, u signal to change lane, confirm the car on the other lane will speed up. In MY, they will let u go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by airfins View Post
    Best is to ride in the middle of the lane at the correct speed, just like how a car will occupied the lane.
    Well, ideally it is .. and in Germany as a motorbike rider you can rely and trust on it that car drivers will respect you and give way and space.
    But here in Singapore and much more in other countries around .. If I act in the way I have to do it in Germany I will get lots of funny reactions. In the mildest form people might be irritated, expecting me to act differently. In extreme cases people simply ignore me, cut into my lane, expecting me to find my way anyhow based on reasons I can only guess about...
    So what would you do? Insist on being correct but ride at obviously higher risk? Or comply to the (wrong) expectations and be somewhat safer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahboy168 View Post
    I drive differently in malaysia and singapore as we adapt to our environment. Singapore drivers are really extreme .... Either Sleeping on the road or rushing for toilet to poo.
    It is actually feel safer to drive in malaysia.
    Just an example:In singapore, u signal to change lane, confirm the car on the other lane will speed up. In MY, they will let u go.
    I fully agree to that! Also, even if the lane changer forgets to signal, he will come over more slowly, which gives me the chance to get out of thew way. Singapore is like a computer game: zigzag of a few around the sleepers, on all lanes. And all of them are oblivious in their own mind, as if they are the only people on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    Riding in-between lanes is still safer than drivers who constantly try to force you out of tge lane, even though they know you're there. That in itself is an act of a road bully.

    Anyways, these days it's easier to station an officer along the road to snap photos than to ride with traffic. Furthermore, with expressway upgrading going on, there isn't any road shoulder to stop vehicles on, for most of the areas. And usually i notice they'll be around mostly during off-peak hours
    I agree that is road bully.....

    But station an officer there to catch people who travel fast serve not much purpose.... road education is more important...

    I go by the notion that Police have a moral role to educate the public, and TP, road user.... but.... is there still moral ground is the question....

    Now... I feel road users seems to treated as..... money making opportunity... ERP... COE.... Fines for speeding, etc....

    Just ride carefully... I am afraid of motorcyclist.... especially who swoosh in and out.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    Well, ideally it is .. and in Germany as a motorbike rider you can rely and trust on it that car drivers will respect you and give way and space.
    But here in Singapore and much more in other countries around .. If I act in the way I have to do it in Germany I will get lots of funny reactions. In the mildest form people might be irritated, expecting me to act differently. In extreme cases people simply ignore me, cut into my lane, expecting me to find my way anyhow based on reasons I can only guess about...
    So what would you do? Insist on being correct but ride at obviously higher risk? Or comply to the (wrong) expectations and be somewhat safer?

    Actually that's precisely the problem why we are seeing that "rage" from the said cyclist. He is applying his expectation of road behaviour based on his experience back in his home country, and not really adapting to the local driving behaviour to protect his own skin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelccm View Post
    Actually that's precisely the problem why we are seeing that "rage" from the said cyclist. He is applying his expectation of road behaviour based on his experience back in his home country, and not really adapting to the local driving behaviour to protect his own skin.
    I agree. The other side: are local drivers trained and mentally prepared to have cyclists on the road, and to give them the respect and space required? Even without having this person as bad example I see it every day that local drivers don't have the slightest clue, nor the basic abilities to respond / react to the presence of cyclist in a proper way. They seem to see cyclist as some form of disturbance, nuisance, nothing that need to be taken seriously, far from being an equal participant in public traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    We should seriously consider importing driving instructors from Japan. Ok, a few females ones for this forum
    If confirm already I will start saving for a car ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    We should seriously consider importing driving instructors from Japan. Ok, a few females ones for this forum
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