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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post

    Nothing to do with what I said. What you posted is very clear for all to see. If you cannot accept the fact that you need to watch what you say and how you say certain things, maybe you should not be posting in this forum.
    I just stating facts and if you can't accept all, there isn't any freedom in speeches. Will yourself like to be restricted too and your rights are taken away when you speaks up during your conversation with other?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBTM View Post
    I just stating facts and if you can't accept all, there isn't any freedom in speeches. Will yourself like to be restricted too and your rights are taken away when you speaks up during your conversation with other?
    Freedom of speech is welcome as long as you do not condescend on others due to race, language, religion, skin color, ability (or disability). What you are doing is not "freedom of speech", especially when you insinuated that a person of a difference race somehow made the situation worse.

    And you ought to look up on the legal definition of "freedom of speech".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dreaming View Post

    bro. cool down. log out and take a breather. enjoy your weekend. have a coffee at STARBUCK. relax.

    getting hit by a bicycle on PAVEMENT is a real piss off. cycling cannot co-exist in Singapore Pavement. it is simply naive to think that drawing a line dividing the pavement into pedestrian and cyclist will work in harmony.

    just stay clear of pavement and be careful.

    suggest close the thread else more flame..
    Yesterday my friend almost got hit from back when we waiting at the pedestrian crossing due to the cyclist never dismount and zoom pass the zebra crossing. My friend moves back some more, sure got hit. Singapore should allow certain areas can be cycle else more and more accidents happening every where!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBTM View Post

    I just stating facts and if you can't accept all, there isn't any freedom in speeches. Will yourself like to be restricted too and your rights are taken away when you speaks up during your conversation with other?
    All freedoms have limitations defined by the rights of others. :-)
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    time to take some herbal tea and cool down, else next two weeks we will have a very quiet Kopitiam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBTM View Post
    Yesterday my friend almost got hit from back when we waiting at the pedestrian crossing due to the cyclist never dismount and zoom pass the zebra crossing. My friend moves back some more, sure got hit. Singapore should allow certain areas can be cycle else more and more accidents happening every where!
    i also almost got hit a few times when crossing the road by motorist coz they don't bother to look out for pedestrian. some even dont bother to stop or go slower at zebra crossing.
    Objection !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninelives View Post
    i also almost got hit a few times when crossing the road by motorist coz they don't bother to look out for pedestrian. some even dont bother to stop or go slower at zebra crossing.
    What to do? Even fine of $20 (which hardly take place), don't stop them from doing that. Drink and drive will get it but not cyclist which didn't obey the rules. Even got PCN, they still do their own style and caused us trouble. I just let them ring, they shouted at me, I stop them and call police. See who are in the rights.
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    Do be careful when crowing zebra crossing. More so when the traffic is light. As a motorist, we sometime may miss a person crossing suddenly when you are deep in thought. No excuse but for your own safety, do wait to ensure the car see you and slowing down before crossing.

    When there are traffic light, the chances are the motorist will see them. But don't rush to cross as you know our traffic light turn from amber to red is split second. Not all traffic light have the same timing and motorist just need to guess what next.

    What we are all in such a hurry? I also don't know. I have to keep reminding myself, take it easy, slow down. But, we are tuned to slot In the name of productivity and also multitask. Drive but think about work. Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBTM View Post
    What to do? Even fine of $20 (which hardly take place), don't stop them from doing that. Drink and drive will get it but not cyclist which didn't obey the rules. Even got PCN, they still do their own style and caused us trouble. I just let them ring, they shouted at me, I stop them and call police. See who are in the rights.
    bbtm, i am talking about motorist, not cyclist. there are more offender motorists out there compare to cyclists. i travel to work by buses, so i always got to see all kinds of stunts perform by motorists. next time i go buy a helmet mount camera while boarding the bus.
    Objection !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninelives View Post
    bbtm, i am talking about motorist, not cyclist. there are more offender motorists out there compare to cyclists. i travel to work by buses, so i always got to see all kinds of stunts perform by motorists. next time i go buy a helmet mount camera while boarding the bus.
    Ok, see wrong. Btw, just make sure they stopped before you moves off some time. I always do that, don't take it as they sees you as they do have blind spot or they day (night) dreaming, haha!
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    There are good and bad motorists out there. And there are good and bad cyclists out there. But cyclists should always remember that they are way more vulnerable, if they do not ride defensively, they put their own lives at stake. Worse so if they ride recklessly.

    Sometimes I do not see a need for all the rise in emotions when a biker gets hit. People need to cool it first and see what the investigation comes up with... many times, the bikers are at fault too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    There are good and bad motorists out there. And there are good and bad cyclists out there. But cyclists should always remember that they are way more vulnerable, if they do not ride defensively, they put their own lives at stake. Worse so if they ride recklessly.

    Sometimes I do not see a need for all the rise in emotions when a biker gets hit. People need to cool it first and see what the investigation comes up with... many times, the bikers are at fault too.
    well, because everyone assumes that the motorists are not being careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    All freedoms have limitations defined by the rights of others. :-)
    and no one will know what freedom truly is, unless they've been under oppression

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    Maybe OT.

    I recall once when driving past Great World, a Caucasian was crossing the road and even when he sees my car coming at a speed, he continue to walk and din bother to avoid me. When I sounded my horn, he pointed finger at me instead of trying to avoid. Like the road belongs to him. Really pissed off.

    I feel locals know the culture and respect the system and would know how to react. But foreigners might be lacking in this aspect. On the other hand, when we travel, locals will say the aw thing about us, dunno how to behave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daredevil123 View Post
    Why do you think I have to come in here and start issuing infractions, give warnings and clean house? Do you think I am very free? It is because several people seen this thread and found some of the posts offensive (including yours) and reported. And after I came in to see due to these reports, yes the posts are indeed offensive (including yours).

    If you cannot accept the fact that you need to watch what you say and how you say certain things, maybe you should not be posting in this forum.
    Who is so free to report? What is wrong with calling an orange, an orange? If I call asian woman who only likes Caucasian men a SPG. Yes, it may be derogatory.

    But if Wikipedia can be used as a reference, definition of GL includes:
    "Many Cantonese speakers frequently use the term "gweilo" to refer to caucasian in general and consider the term non-derogatory, which some members of the foreign community resent"
    source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gweilo

    Some people resenting it does not make it a racist term.

    Which is worse? The poster whose comments target a specific piece of video or the one who tried to influenced the public into thinking it is general comment targeting a specific race? The latter is just as guilty and I hope the moderator has been fair to also issue an infraction to that person. In any case, we do have some dung stirrer in this forum.
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    This is a time-out video.


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    I started this thread to vent my frustration about undesirable behaviour on the road and it seems like it has taken on another life of its own. Albert, close it if you think some folks are using this to push their own agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManWearPants View Post
    Who is so free to report? What is wrong with calling an orange, an orange? If I call asian woman who only likes Caucasian men a SPG. Yes, it may be derogatory.

    But if Wikipedia can be used as a reference, definition of GL includes:
    "Many Cantonese speakers frequently use the term "gweilo" to refer to caucasian in general and consider the term non-derogatory, which some members of the foreign community resent"
    source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gweilo

    Some people resenting it does not make it a racist term.

    Which is worse? The poster whose comments target a specific piece of video or the one who tried to influenced the public into thinking it is general comment targeting a specific race? The latter is just as guilty and I hope the moderator has been fair to also issue an infraction to that person. In any case, we do have some dung stirrer in this forum.
    similar to the white man thinking that it's ok to call the Chinese and Japanese Yellow Skins, and the Chinese Chinks. they think it's nothing wrong.

    what do you think? are you offended by the name calling?

    just because you don't think it is, doesn't mean that it's not. and btw, the meaning of gwai-lo is to mean Devil. calling someone a devil is a negative term, is it not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    I started this thread to vent my frustration about undesirable behaviour on the road and it seems like it has taken on another life of its own. Albert, close it if you think some folks are using this to push their own agenda.
    well, you should have known that there are a few foreigner haters who will come in here to push a political agenda as usual.

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    It could be a cultural thing.

    Certain cultures do not have a respect for laws or authority. This cyclist seems to exemplify all that's wrong with his culture in this aspect.

    Some cultures do not have a culture of road safety. For example, in Vietnam, the roads are very chaotic. In the subcontinental Asia, it may be acceptable to load livestock onto public transport.

    For foreign residents in Singapore they must accept and respect that they are in a different land and respect the rule of law and the common customs, in order to have a harmonic living with the citizens.

    I would consider it really bad manners on my part if you were to invite me to your house and I insult your decorations, insult your refreshments and facilities, dirty your floor, spit on your carpet, soil your sofa, spill my drink by having poor risk management eg dancing wildly with my glass in hand when clearly it is not in order with the culture of your home.
    Sure there are plenty of great guests and enjoyable company, but occasionally some reminders are due for those with short memory.

    There are plenty of good and bad cyclists. However it seems that foreign cyclists have a culture of risk taking beyond acceptable level of safety.



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