DX lens on F80?

viperMako · 12th May 2005

is it possible to use the DX lens that comes with D70 on F80?

wingless84 · 12th May 2005

technically, the mount is the same.
but the difference of the DX-coded lens is that the image circle is designed for APS-C sized sensors so therefore it will not be large enough to cover the full area of your 135 film (the F80/N80 Is a film camera, after all).
can't say i've tried but you'll probably get severe vignetting.

icarus · 12th May 2005

I've tested all the DX lenses on my F100 before :-

1) 10.5DX - extremely funny looking vignette
2) 12-24DX - vignette from 12-18mm
3) 18-70DX - vignette from 18-70mm
4) 17-55DX - vignette from 17-25mm

viperMako · 12th May 2005

Originally Posted by wingless84

technically, the mount is the same.
but the difference of the DX-coded lens is that the image circle is designed for APS-C sized sensors so therefore it will not be large enough to cover the full area of your 135 film (the F80/N80 Is a film camera, after all).
can't say i've tried but you'll probably get severe vignetting.

thanks, but apart from the vignetting effect, can i say that i would be able to get a wider angle than that specified in the DX lens? As contrast to, you know, when one use a normal lens on the D70, you got an extra 1.5 tele.

if this is true, i am thinking of experimenting some wide angle effect on film or slide, then scan and PS to put some creative effect on the vignet portion.
But of course, it would be good to get a normal WA lens.

espn · 12th May 2005

No. Technically speaking, DX cannot be used on film bodies FULLY.

And no, I don't want to argue about what from 18mm onwards can be used etc.

RiStaR · 12th May 2005

Originally Posted by viperMako

thanks, but apart from the vignetting effect, can i say that i would be able to get a wider angle than that specified in the DX lens? As contrast to, you know, when one use a normal lens on the D70, you got an extra 1.5 tele.

if this is true, i am thinking of experimenting some wide angle effect on film or slide, then scan and PS to put some creative effect on the vignet portion.
But of course, it would be good to get a normal WA lens.

You're confusing focal length with crop factor... focal length is the same regardless of digital vs film. What changes is the resulting image size produced by the lens on the capturing media (Film or APS sensor). So in short a DX lens--especially the wider focal lengths--won't work on film/full 35mm frame bodies.

If you'd like to get really wide focal lenths, you'll probably have to get the Sigma 12-24 or a full-frame fisheye

mpenza · 12th May 2005

no. you won't get wider than that specified in a DX lens. For a DX lens on a D70, you still got the extra "1.5 tele".

Pinoy_SAP · 12th May 2005

Originally Posted by viperMako

is it possible to use the DX lens that comes with D70 on F80?

DX lens was intended for APS-C D-SLR (smaller sensor). some internet site have tried it on Film cameras but keep saying don't zoom upto there and avoid aperture upto blah... so to avoid this kind of restrictions, IMHO just use DX for DX cams

icarus · 13th May 2005

Originally Posted by espn

No. Technically speaking, DX cannot be used on film bodies FULLY.

And no, I don't want to argue about what from 18mm onwards can be used etc.

The 12-24DX still provides me with good images on slide as an 18mm lens... not bad leh

wingless84 · 13th May 2005

wah you actually go and try the DX lens on film camera ah... bravo to you man.

espn · 13th May 2005

Originally Posted by icarus

The 12-24DX still provides me with good images on slide as an 18mm lens... not bad leh

icarus, read my last sentence of my post

mpenza · 13th May 2005

it's a high price to pay for a "18-24" lens for a film SLR though (if the poster didn't have a dslr).

sillyme · 13th May 2005

This may help.

http://www.nikon.ca/pdf/the_dx_story.pdf

From the document:

Quote:

For this reason Nikon do not recommend use of DX Nikkor lenses on 135 formatcameras.

quekky · 13th May 2005

Technically it cannot be use

it's up the individual to use it if he thinks that he likes the effect it produce

yapel · 15th May 2005

Originally Posted by sillyme

This may help.

http://www.nikon.ca/pdf/the_dx_story.pdf

From the document:

This DX story is certainly very well-written and easily understood! Thanks for sharing!

gooseberry · 15th May 2005

Originally Posted by mpenza

it's a high price to pay for a "18-24" lens for a film SLR though (if the poster didn't have a dslr).

It's cheaper than buying 18mm, 20mm and 24mm primes

and considering it's performance at those focal ranges are reputedly as good as those primes...

icarus · 15th May 2005

Originally Posted by espn

icarus, read my last sentence of my post

I was just trying to share my findings about these DX lenses thats all, not arguing hor hee hee

mpenza · 15th May 2005

Originally Posted by gooseberry

It's cheaper than buying 18mm, 20mm and 24mm primes and considering it's performance at those focal ranges are reputedly as good as those primes...

The primes are faster though, so it's not a like-for-like comparison. If there's a set of F4 primes, they would likely be cheaper.

gooseberry · 15th May 2005

Originally Posted by mpenza

The primes are faster though, so it's not a like-for-like comparison. If there's a set of F4 primes, they would likely be cheaper.

Good point, but we can only really compare with what is available.

Hehe.. getting off-topic... slightly. Hope viperMako has gotten the answers from the discussion.

espn · 15th May 2005

I just took a shot using the 10.5 FE on my F80, for those who wants to see the results are welcome to drop by at the NUG after the next, I will send in for developing on monday, should get it by thurs

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viperMako New Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 39	DX lens on F80? is it possible to use the DX lens that comes with D70 on F80?

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icarus Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pasir Ris Posts: 3,233	I've tested all the DX lenses on my F100 before :- 1) 10.5DX - extremely funny looking vignette 2) 12-24DX - vignette from 12-18mm 3) 18-70DX - vignette from 18-70mm 4) 17-55DX - vignette from 17-25mm __________________ Ricoh GR Digital, Minolta Hi-matic 7SII

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wingless84 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Joo Chiat, Singapore Posts: 215	technically, the mount is the same. but the difference of the DX-coded lens is that the image circle is designed for APS-C sized sensors so therefore it will not be large enough to cover the full area of your 135 film (the F80/N80 Is a film camera, after all). can't say i've tried but you'll probably get severe vignetting.

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espn Deregistered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Planet Nikon Posts: 22,045	No. Technically speaking, DX cannot be used on film bodies FULLY. And no, I don't want to argue about what from 18mm onwards can be used etc.

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mpenza Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,397	no. you won't get wider than that specified in a DX lens. For a DX lens on a D70, you still got the extra "1.5 tele".

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wingless84 Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Joo Chiat, Singapore Posts: 215	wah you actually go and try the DX lens on film camera ah... bravo to you man.

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quekky Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: www.irphotography.com Posts: 1,377	Technically it cannot be use it's up the individual to use it if he thinks that he likes the effect it produce

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espn Deregistered Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Planet Nikon Posts: 22,045	I just took a shot using the 10.5 FE on my F80, for those who wants to see the results are welcome to drop by at the NUG after the next, I will send in for developing on monday, should get it by thurs