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    Hi all,

    I am pretty new to photography and just came to know about this interesting forum.

    Can someone tell me why you would pay a non-professional model and shoot?? I saw some pics which the model can't pose nor pretty!!! I always think the models should be the one paying instead!!

    Is it for the experience or fun or....??

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    cos none of my friends would pose for me? so i got to 'pay' them? (a meal is also payment ok)

    Recently, I've found a large group of model who would pose for me pretty well. Anywhere from HDB estates to forests. They'll be there for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yanyewkay
    cos none of my friends would pose for me? so i got to 'pay' them? (a meal is also payment ok)

    Recently, I've found a large group of model who would pose for me pretty well. Anywhere from HDB estates to forests. They'll be there for me.
    You mean the butterflies, like your avatar?
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    they are no camera shy .
    more pretty . more curves . more photogenic . more more more ..

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    There are few thosand/million of them if you look lower
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    Quote Originally Posted by zerofour
    There are few thosand/million of them if you look lower
    yups they are all over.. can't get any lower than the one in my avatar..kekek.. really on the floor and really tiny

    oops.. we OT from thread #2.. my bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shooter
    Hi all,

    I am pretty new to photography and just came to know about this interesting forum.

    Can someone tell me why you would pay a non-professional model and shoot?? I saw some pics which the model can't pose nor pretty!!! I always think the models should be the one paying instead!!

    Is it for the experience or fun or....??
    its for fun joy and laughter (or for major nosebleed whatever)...
    come on man, unless u are saying u are a pro photog who does photography as a main job (which in this case, u probably have ur own line of models queueing up for u to take pictures of them)

    what makes u think e photos u take for them are worth them paying u instead? Given the fact that they might not be pro models who knows how to pose (and who says a model must be pretty????), at least they are giving u their time for u to take pictures of them...

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    Very Simple....
    1) I am free on weekends.
    2) Gather with my Kakis to shoot the model.
    3) Make Merry with Kakis and Model
    4) Go home happy after making new friend.
    5) Post pics on Clubsnap and wait for professional advice.
    6) Repeat from step 1 , next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikonsiao
    Very Simple....
    1) I am free on weekends.
    2) Gather with my Kakis to shoot the model.
    3) Make Merry with Kakis and Model
    4) Go home happy after making new friend.
    5) Post pics on Clubsnap and wait for professional advice.
    6) Repeat from step 1 , next week.
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    Professional models got professional rates
    Freelance models got freelance rates
    Part-time models got part-time rates
    Newbie models got newbie rates

    For the model to be paying, she will need to be assured of getting good photographs. Most of the paid model shoots does not obligate the photographers to provide photographs to the model - in such a case, why should the model pay?

    In any event the corollary would be

    Professional photographers got professional rates
    Freelance photographers got freelance rates
    Part-time photographers got part-time rates
    Newbie/Hobbyist photographers got newbie/hobbyist rates.

    Get it?


    Quote Originally Posted by shooter
    Hi all,

    I am pretty new to photography and just came to know about this interesting forum.

    Can someone tell me why you would pay a non-professional model and shoot?? I saw some pics which the model can't pose nor pretty!!! I always think the models should be the one paying instead!!

    Is it for the experience or fun or....??

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    A newbie with 2 posts and asking such a question... intending for flame war?

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    Quote Originally Posted by espn
    A newbie with 2 posts and asking such a question... intending for flame war?
    Actually hor, if everybody remembered, I also asked this question too during my early days in Clubsnap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeckson Chow
    Actually hor, if everybody remembered, I also asked this question too during my early days in Clubsnap.
    Not the way he/she phrased it - "-snip- non-professional model and shoot?? I saw some pics which the model can't pose nor pretty!!! I always think the models should be the one paying instead!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeckson Chow
    Actually hor, if everybody remembered, I also asked this question too during my early days in Clubsnap.
    Zeckson would be able to give u a good answer as to why you should pay! The guy paid for a budget hotel to shoot a girl he got to know from friendster, or was it ICQ? Did you pay the girl as well Zeckson?

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    Practise makes perfect.

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    actually no need to be pro to be paid. Sometime ago, I've heard of newbie models paying to get their photos shot for port folios.. then came along TFP where photogs are happy to shoot for free while the models get their portfolio done.. for free too..
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    Actually, TFP has been around for a very long while.

    Assuming no con job involved, the reason why newbie models pay to get their photos shot was because professional photographers are involved. These pros won't waste their time doing TFPs for newbies.

    Same as how professional models won't waste their time doing TFPs for newbie photographers. It's usually an alignment of skill levels which determine whether there is payment involved.

    Quote Originally Posted by yanyewkay
    actually no need to be pro to be paid. Sometime ago, I've heard of newbie models paying to get their photos shot for port folios.. then came along TFP where photogs are happy to shoot for free while the models get their portfolio done.. for free too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by shooter
    Hi all,

    I am pretty new to photography and just came to know about this interesting forum.

    Can someone tell me why you would pay a non-professional model and shoot?? I saw some pics which the model can't pose nor pretty!!! I always think the models should be the one paying instead!!

    Is it for the experience or fun or....??
    I agree with espn, this is definately intended to start a flame war, and at the very least a windup.

    Statements like "... can't post ... nor pretty ..." is rather inflamatory.
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    Guys, no flame war please... Enough liao... Don't small small thing start chemical war, stone war, egg war, flame / water war... Peace... Peace...
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    no one is starting any war wah...
    why u so kan jiong?

    anyway, mods will step in if the thread goes out of hand, u dun have to worry about them doing their job...

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