28th April 2005, 07:47 PM
Because they are so many photograhers still supporting such act, thats why these companies are able to succeed.
Originally Posted by canturn
Its up to individuals whether they think its worth the effort, but not for me.
28th April 2005, 08:10 PM
Not for me too, I already see a few posts suggesting to join, they are the ones supporting these acts
28th April 2005, 09:22 PM
Me boycott too... even though they earn lotsa money doesn't mean they use it effectively or properly or that they are generous....
Originally Posted by scanner
28th April 2005, 09:33 PM
Even school photography clubs are encouraging their members to join..
Originally Posted by espn
28th April 2005, 10:26 PM
ermm ... to me, its either you win (and get a prize) or you lose ... so i don't see anything grey in the technical terms. If it goes into qualifying, thats not winning right?
Originally Posted by Ashleyy
not to start a flame war or anything, objectively speaking, I agree thats its a cheap way of commissioning works done, but I'm pretty sure pro's won't bother.
Besides, you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
Instead, I see it as a window of opportunity to us amatuers/hobbyists etc etc. I don't shoot like a pro and most of my shots suck, but even $250 in the wallet is better than 2megabytes of data which only I appreciate. After all, I'm not selling my morals. Thats reality for me.
I've seen dozens of competitions organised every year. Less than 20% allow the photographers to retain their rights. Even if I don't join such competitions, they won't go away. Thats reality for me as well.
*steps back and awaits the flames* ...
Lets take it with a pinch of salt.
28th April 2005, 11:38 PM
Actually i don't see the need to talk so much over this issue.
I would see this in the positive light. That is the pros have no interest in these 'peanuts', then there leave more chances for 'monkeys' like myself to eat them. All pros started off as 'monkeys' somewhere in their life.
29th April 2005, 08:49 AM
Juz imagine the subject changes to shooting babes in bikini and organnize by some magazine, all terms and conditions the same, i dare to say alot of ppl will jump in.
Its becos the subject to shoot is different, not in their interest.
There are some who loves these themes, why stop them from participate?
Its a competition, got prizes, not the kind of free jobs.
29th April 2005, 09:09 AM
I do not much wrong other than your winning entry is being "owned" by LTA? I think one would feel honoured that his/her photos are used by LTA, probably seen by quite a number of people? If the pictures are not to be seen or appreciated in the first place by other people, there is no need to take part in the competition. This also serve to widen your own exposure IMO. I think having earning $250 in your pocket with good picture is better than paying $250 (for 4-5 sessions of model shoot etc?) to shoot with meaningful pictures.
Comeon, you think LTA will pay thousands of dollars just to organise such competitions for wannabes to waste their time? I would think they are paying more than what they need to. Prize money alone is $7500, not including other costs to run the competition and etc etc. I would think this is a win-win situation. The participants get more exposure and the LTA gets more choices. I would believe LTA can just throw $10K on a professional photographer that can product very traditional yet positive images to choose from. Maybe after this competition award winning photographers can have more chance to meetup with real studios that might need them?
Who knows. So be more positive and not be short-sighted.
29th April 2005, 09:13 AM
ya, one side seems that they are saving money and getting more choice
the other side of view seems that they are encouraging more Newcomers to take part in the competition for experience and prize.
Very hard to judge which point of view is the right one.
29th April 2005, 09:15 AM
there is no clear answer. just go with your flow. to each his own.
29th April 2005, 10:12 AM
hmmm ... here's 3 questions i posted to Andrea Chua, LTA's person-in-charge of queries regarding the competition:
Qn: I will like to know if the photographer will be acknowledged in any way if his/her work(s) is/are used ...
Ans: Yes, the photographer would be acknowledged this is why we would require you to ensure that your particulars and photos submitted to us must be correctly labelled.
Qn: ... and whether photographers will lose their copyright of the submitted non-winning entries.
Ans: photographers will not lose their copyright if their photos are not winning entries.
Qn: Does 'winning entries' include only those selected for the 13 prizes?
I don't see anything wrong with this competition personally, nothing gets done when you think too much
29th April 2005, 11:04 AM
Another Question for Andrea Chua?
Here's something else to think about:
Remember all those times when SMRT or SBS Transit staff would approach you when you're setting up a tripod to take a shot in the MRT, telling you that a permit was required to take photos or it's just plain NOT ALLOWED?
Extracted from LTA "Journeys" Competition Information:
"The competition, themed "Journeys", requires photographers to look beyond the mundane in their daily travel on Singapore's land transport system."
I think Miss Chua is going to receive her fair share of calls from irritated photographers in due course.
29th April 2005, 11:06 AM
you call/email her lah, since you have the question
Originally Posted by Reflection
29th April 2005, 11:34 AM
29th April 2005, 11:48 AM
Originally Posted by eikin
You kidding? And prevent someone from doing what she's paid to do as a communications officer?
That would be a sin.
29th April 2005, 11:52 AM
hahaa, sounds abit weird about the rule now that you've brought it up.
Prints means hardcopy ? then how to put them into a CD ? lolz
ya, regarding permit, i remembered i was shooting my frenz at the Harbour Front MRT, when suddenly the employee there came out and stop me from taking photographs... i think they abit sensitive to ppl holding on to cameras in the Station. somemore mine is those *normal camera lor.,...
29th April 2005, 12:37 PM
Here's the rules and regulations.
"Composite photographs, multiple printing/exposures, and images manipulated
(electronically or otherwise) are allowed."
I think they want both a hard and soft copy of your photo.
Last edited by reno77; 29th April 2005 at 12:39 PM.
29th April 2005, 12:45 PM
Just print your image onto a CD and submit that.
Originally Posted by leeter
Also write an email to the organiser to ask for permit and show the MRT employees, remember to CC to SMRT and ask for permit also. Make sure that you get the name and tel number of the approving officer.
With that 2 pieces of paper no one will be able to stop you from taking pictures.
29th April 2005, 01:49 PM
this competition is supported by Safra Photographic Club. it is expected that LTA has sought Safra P C's input on the technical aspect of the competition.
Last edited by reachme2003; 29th April 2005 at 01:52 PM.
29th April 2005, 03:30 PM
Thnx dude, i'll write a letter, if i am going to take part, but i guess it is a great help to us all !!
Originally Posted by ortega