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    PM must call an election to fill a seat vacated by MP

    I have the utmost respect for the decision by the Court of Appeal and the courage of Ms Vellama Marie Muthu and Mr M Ravi. This was a close shave for democracy in Singapore.
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    Bottomline is ... "what does it mean to the Hougang residents?" Does it mean that the ruling party will have another chance to dislodge the opposition from Hougang?
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    Quote Originally Posted by An drew View Post
    PM must call an election to fill a seat vacated by MP

    I have the utmost respect for the decision by the Court of Appeal and the courage of Ms Vellama Marie Muthu and Mr M Ravi. This was a close shave for democracy in Singapore.
    Lai lai, let's bet on how long the career of the presiding judge....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxshade View Post
    Lai lai, let's bet on how long the career of the presiding judge....
    Ha ha. There are 3 judges. I worry for them too, one of them used to be the Resident Fellow of my block and a really honourable and righteous guy.

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    Counting down... Let's take a bet on how long before this Political thread will be shut down.

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    It is alright. CA says need to call election, then call one. Not a big deal.

    Why such a big fuss by AGC, High Court judge over the simple interpretation of the word "shall". Just ask any primary school English teacher. Why need CA to decide. So are the lawyers stupid? No, lah. These are bright and smart people. But if one interpretes a particular way, then it is a given that the other party will appeal. They KNOW it. So my guess is that, maybe this is just a case of what we call, "passing the buck upstairs" inside the system to the CA to make the decision.

    It is not a political thread. Just outcome of CA decision. Where legal emphasis moved from the word "election" to the word "shall".
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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    Counting down... Let's take a bet on how long before this Political thread will be shut down.
    Heh, tough lei. If everyone stayed away from the keywords this thread can go forever. So far, it's just a discussion on the interpretation of law, and thecareer of judges, work of AGC, etc.. Nothing political.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxshade View Post
    Heh, tough lei. If everyone stayed away from the keywords this thread can go forever. So far, it's just a discussion on the interpretation of law, and thecareer of judges, work of AGC, etc.. Nothing political.
    just wait for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    just wait for it
    you mean to rig the bet, by typing the name should not be typed?
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    Despite whoever is behind the scene, pulling her strings for whatever ulterior motive. I still like to thank Ms. Vellama Marie Muthu in fighting for our constitutional rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9V-Orion Images View Post
    Despite whoever is behind the scene, pulling her strings for whatever ulterior motive. I still like to thank Ms. Vellama Marie Muthu in fighting for our constitutional rights.
    Yeah, not many people dare to do such things.
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    shall call. . . but any time frame in which it should happen. . . ?
    anyway Prem Binister had the foresight to call for one preemptively rather than have his hand forced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9V-Orion Images View Post
    Despite whoever is behind the scene, pulling her strings for whatever ulterior motive. I still like to thank Ms. Vellama Marie Muthu in fighting for our constitutional rights.
    The primary intent of this thread is to recognize the efforts of Singaporeans, ordinary ("part-time cleaner") or otherwise, in safeguarding the constitutional rights of the common Singaporean. I also hope that Singaporeans will be less fearful and apathetic about such issues as the survival of our nation depends on our willingness to defend what is important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by An drew View Post
    The primary intent of this thread is to recognize the efforts of Singaporeans, ordinary ("part-time cleaner") or otherwise, in safeguarding the constitutional rights of the common Singaporean. I also hope that Singaporeans will be less fearful and apathetic about such issues as the survival of our nation depends on our willingness to defend what is important.
    Are you saying that we have no right?

    What are you fearful of?

    Is it a question of survival of our NATION? So serious? Is your livelihood or life threatened?

    Are you not living comfortably?

    Which country do you think is best?

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    Is it a question of survival of our NATION? So serious? Is your livelihood or life threatened?

    Are you not living comfortably?
    Is not the Constitution of our nation and its interpretation a serious matter?

    As for comfort:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post
    Are you saying that we have no right?

    What are you fearful of?
    This is a trick question. Don't answer it. At least let me win my bet on when this thread got shut down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxshade View Post
    This is a trick question. Don't answer it. At least let me win my bet on when this thread got shut down.
    Which would be an expression of fear. As long as we discuss things in a civilized manner the T&C of CS give us the space.
    Political discussions are healthy, however inconvenient they might be for those being pushed out of their (mental) comfort zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Octarine View Post
    .... As long as we discuss things in a civilized manner the T&C of CS give us the space.
    thanks Octarine , much appreciated
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricohflex View Post

    It is not a political thread. Just outcome of CA decision. Where legal emphasis moved from the word "election" to the word "shall".
    So its an english language thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yappy View Post
    Are you saying that we have no right?
    I say we have total right to choose Canon over Nikon but not vice vise.

    What are you fearful of?
    A long messy hair pale-faced woman in long white gown sitting on my bed in the middle of night.

    Is it a question of survival of our NATION? So serious? Is your livelihood or life threatened?
    I have been threatened by aggressive aunties when I point my compact at them.

    Are you not living comfortably?
    Not comfortably to the extent of having limitless XMMs to shoot.

    Which country do you think is best?
    I think Brazil with their beautiful models is the best democracy.

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