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    Moyes refutes 'nonsense' Rio talk

    Last Updated: February 11 2014, 18:23 GMT

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    Rio Ferdinand will be going on Manchester United's winter break, with manager David Moyes branding speculation to the contrary "complete nonsense".

    Moyes opted not to state where United were going following Wednesday night's Premier League encounter at Arsenal.

    However, it is widely believed the Red Devils will be spending a short time in Dubai as part of their preparations for the Champions League encounter with Olympiakos in Athens on February 25.

    It had been claimed Ferdinand, an unused substitute in Sunday's Premier League draw with Fulham at Old Trafford, would not travel and, in addition, it was suggested United would confirm on Thursday the 35-year-old would be retiring at the end of the season.

    However, Moyes said rejected the claims out of hand.

    "I can only tell you what was written was a load of rubbish," said Moyes.

    "Complete nonsense."

    Ferdinand's present contract is due to expire at the end of the season.

    As the veteran defender has made just one appearance in two months and failed to make it onto the field at Old Trafford on Sunday, even though two obvious alternatives - Phil Jones and Jonny Evans - were ruled out through injury, and long-time partner Nemanja Vidic has already announced his intention to quit Old Trafford in the summer, it would not be a massive surprise if Ferdinand did call it a day.

    He certainly would appear to have little future at United, the club he joined for 29.1million in 2002, although a switch to MLS is not completely out of the question.

    Ferdinand has also entered the debate.

    In addition to a put-down of the author of the story about his omission, he stated on Twitter: "Must be another slow news day."

    Whilst the wider merits of United's squad heading off to sunnier climes at a time when their domestic form has been so poor, professionally it makes sense.

    Indeed, with the Champions League now representing the club's only chance of marking Moyes' debut campaign with any silverware, it represents a sensible move by the Scot.

    "We've got a big Champions League game coming up in just over a week's time and this gives us a chance of having a few days away to get ready," Moyes added.
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    No more excuses: David Moyes is now officially up for the sack
    By Y! | Fit To Post Sports – Tue, Feb 11, 2014 8:46 AM SGT

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    First off, let me say that the support for David Moyes shown by the Manchester United fanbase (well, not ALL of them…) over the last nine months has been exemplary.

    Yes, I'm well aware that said support is probably motivated more by a desire to appear less fickle than other fans than it is by genuine humanitarianism, but nonetheless, it has been refreshing and commendable.

    Which is why I would like to hereby declare that as of 18:00 GMT on Sunday, February 9, 2014, the 'give David Moyes the benefit of the doubt' window is well and truly closed.

    Every Manchester United fan, regardless of their stance on the torrid first season of the Moyes campaign so far, should no longer feel any moral obligation whatsoever to any possible excuse for why United are such a shambles.

    This includes:

    - It's impossible to immediately follow Sir Alex Ferguson, the greatest British manager of all time.
    - The squad Moyes inherited was one of the weakest United set-ups in the Premier League era
    - Ferguson himself needed three seasons to fully adjust at Old Trafford
    - The other teams are all 'smelling blood' and upping their game for a very claimable scalp
    - The chicken parmesan served at Carrington is below par in 2013/14

    Why now? Why are these very-reasonable offerings for why United are currently 15 points off the league leaders – and nine adrift of the all-important Champions League places – now officially moot?

    Well, did you watch the Fulham game?

    Eurosport (and just about everywhere else) have absolutely piled in on just how much of a depressing chore it was to watch futile cross after futile cross zonk its way into the Fulham box.

    Such a blatant betrayal of confidence in one’s own players and their ability as a unit to boss a game on the floor was made even more baffling by data available BEFORE KICK-OFF that shows Fulham, despite being bottom of the table, are in fact one of the better defences so far this season when it comes to dealing with crosses from the flanks.

    Weak squad, tough act to follow, ridiculousness of hasty sackings, and dealing with the whole world trying to swoop in on your frailties like footballing vultures – this all could well be 100% true, but it’s absolutely zero excuse for the tat United fans had to endure on Sunday.

    I am aware, first-hand, of fans of League Two sides who lose faith in their team’s boss for resorting to such one-dimensional tactics in a game they’re not even expected to win, let alone a home fixture against the division’s bottom side.

    After the result, Moyes remained defensive of a undeniable, complete and utter tactical soiling of his own sheets.

    "One of the big things about Manchester United is that they do play with width, they do cross the ball, it’s in their genes here," the Scot said.

    No matter how he truly feels about the Fulham shambles, and no matter what results litter the remainder of Moyes' spell as United gaffer, one thing is clear in this writer's mind.

    The time for leeway is over.

    Quickfire hirings and firings in football are indeed unnecessary and tiresome. I say this as someone who usually groans every time a knee-jerk sacking is confirmed by a board who seem completely oblivious to how equally responsible they themselves are for any given club's struggles.

    But at 6pm on Sunday evening, any sort of real potential outrage at the prospect of the Manchester United board giving up on their first post-Fergie project was well and truly put to rest.

    David Moyes' head now officially rests upon the chopping block.


    Article is from Yahoo Sports... not much power... and think that the the odd for DM sacking have been shortened....
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    No one watching?
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    I am watching..

    Both teams afraid to lose..
    Not much action..

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    I expect them lose again, how can manutd manage to get a draw ?

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    Saw the last 10 mins of the game. You are right, Arsenal is afraid to loose the game more than us. Just see the last 3 mins of injury time, Arsenal team don't even want to put any effort for a last shot at our goal but wasted the time passing the ball around. That's not how Arsenal wants to be EPL champion is made of. For us, a draw does not do us any favors as both Spurs and Liverpool won their games. We are even further behind now. That shows what is our depth of play now, unable to score and revive our confidence in winning. Disappointed.....

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    How many cross did Man U make? Should be less than 40 cos no goal....
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    I did watch highlights and most Manutd attack came from crosses...

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    I would just like to add that it pains me to see the misuse of first Kagawa, and then Mata. Really painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richiemccaw1 View Post
    I would just like to add that it pains me to see the misuse of first Kagawa, and then Mata. Really painful.
    Kagawa was to replace Rooney. He is the main threat down the centre and and to open up defence when crossing do not work...
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    I watched the match on BT sports where there was a PIP of Moyes for the last 30 secs.

    In the last 30s, United could have counter attacked with pace as Arsenal was short of numbers in defence.

    In the PIP, you could see that Moyes was shouting for the team to push up and counter. However, the team did not counter. Instead, Carrick stopped and passed back to Cleverley. Cleverley then passed the ball back to Evra and Evra just slowed the game down. By then, Arsenal was already back in defence.

    You could then see that Moyes was damn pissed off.

    After watching the 30s, I seriously doubt some of the players commitment. And not only was Moyes tactically naive, he is having a power struggle in the dressing room.

    I hope he can clear the deadwood in the team and stamp his authority on the team. Without doing it, he can't succeed.

    Champions league place should be out of our reach, I hope we will not get Europa place either. Then we can concentrate on training after the world cup and fight for the BPL next year.

    This summer should be exciting.
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    Moyes must avoid turning Mata into Kagawa
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    Following Manchester United's 0-0 draw with Arsenal, David Moyes addressed the issue of whether his team could still finish fourth in the Premier League, and thus qualify automatically for the Champions League. "If there's one club in history who've been great at winning games in the second half of the season, it's Manchester United," he said.

    Unfair as it might seem to pick over every quote uttered by Moyes, this one seems particularly revealing. After all, in order to finish fourth, Manchester United will have to displace one of Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester City and Arsenal. It can safely be said, especially given the free-scoring ways of the Merseysiders -- the current occupants of that fourth and final position -- that this is not going to happen. Of course, there's a possibility of such an occurrence, and optimists are welcome to cling to it. But their hopes are forlorn as Billie Jean praying that Michael Jackson would accept fatherhood.

    Moyes' brave face on all this is understandable. After all, he is merely trying to rally his men. Yet, behind closed doors, there must be some form of admission that, in reality, Manchester United are engaged in a struggle for sixth place. Tottenham Hotspur, in fifth place, have just defeated Everton and Newcastle in the Premier League, scoring five goals without reply. Everton are currently three points ahead of the Old Trafford side with a game in hand, and behind the reigning champions, just three points back, lurk Southampton. To quote the Old Testament: "How the mighty have fallen."

    At the start of the season, club staff and supporters alike did not expect to be contemplating Europa League football. (It's arguable that Manchester United might be better off out of that competition altogether, addressing their various squad problems without the distraction of that most drawn-out of contests.) Looking at the quality of players on Manchester United's roster, some might say that sixth place represents the team's true standing. With each passing week, though, it becomes less clear how much time Moyes will be given to make all of the investments necessary to overhaul his squad.

    There are positives from Wednesday night's performance: The team avoided defeat, Nemanja Vidic was impressive, and Tom Cleverley, recently liberated from his torrid experience on Twitter, was resilient against Arsenal's midfield. Their defensive stance was logical from one point of view: Their confidence is clearly lower than it has been for some time. In attack, though, they were listless, typified by the tentative finishing of Robin van Persie.

    It is to be hoped, too, that in time Juan Mata is brought in from the wing, where Shinji Kagawa was once ineffectually deployed. Moyes' use of Mata there in a 4-4-2 formation has the unfortunate appearance of exile, and it cannot be, in the long term, that Moyes believes the Spaniard's gifts will best serve the team from that position.

    This may be the prevailing worry for many people: That, even if Moyes spends money in the summer and brings in excellent players, he will not put them in a system that suits them.

    There have been unfortunate indications of this already, most visible in the endless stream of inaccurate crosses that sailed against the ankles of the first man or beyond the far post against Fulham. The assumption by optimists is that, if he acquires playmakers of the nature of, say, Athletic Bilbao's Ander Herrera, his side will blossom into one full of attacking vigour.

    The problem with this analysis is that Moyes is not making the best of the players currently under his command. Given that his wingers have been crossing the ball poorly for the best part of two years, he should be encouraging them to keep the ball on the ground as much as possible. He should be asking them instead to use their speed and strength to spread the play, creating the room for Mata to operate in central areas: rather like, say, Arsenal's wide players eventually did for Santi Cazorla against Crystal Palace earlier this month.

    Against defences of Premier League discipline, the diagonal ball from inside-left or inside-right positions is far more effective -- see, for example, the success that Alex Song had with this approach when at Arsenal -- than a thundered centre from the byline on either flank. Better still is the give-and-go approach which, interestingly enough, was Tom Cleverley's strength before his decline in form.

    Crossing is the worst of all worlds, as it allows the opposing defence to sit comfortably deep and narrow, instead of luring them into playing a high line and then getting in behind or between them. The aim should be to give Mata as many touches as possible in central positions facing the opposition goal. It is not clear, either now or in the future, if that is Moyes' intention, and the last thing anyone wants to see is Mata becoming as out-of-sorts as the now-invisible Kagawa.
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    Away at Crystal Palace tonight (early morning tomorrow)..... Hope we don't lose.... :-\
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    Not this week bro..

    United now in Dubai having warm weather training..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vengels View Post
    Not this week bro..

    United now in Dubai having warm weather training..
    Ah yes, I see wrong date. :-(
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Ah yes, I see wrong date. :-(
    FA Cup week... so can take a break from Heart ach... from DM tactics...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfmoon View Post

    FA Cup week... so can take a break from Heart ach... from DM tactics...
    Haha yeah take a break from the heart ache huh.. Every week see them play Kagawa and Mata like that also sian 1/2..

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    Heart ache ? My heart was dead when I saw so many crosses in a game

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    FA Cup weekend? Why are we not involved? Oh, I forgot we were eliminated in the earlier rounds, will be another great record in David's resume.
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    It is so rare that we are so 'free' during this period of the season!!! another record!

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