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    Suit DM's dream team =)
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    Moyes: Vidic decision was mutual


    David Moyes said he played a part in Nemanja Vidic's forthcoming departure from Manchester United, insisting the move had been a mutual decision.

    Club captain Vidic announced that he is bringing his eight-year stay at Old Trafford to an end when his contract expires in the summer and plans to join a foreign club, with Inter Milan already expressing an interest.

    The former Serbia international revealed the news through a statement on Manchester United's official website and insisted that he will not represent another Premier League team, paving the way for a move overseas.

    In a statement on United's official website, Vidic said: It's the last year of my contract and I have had eight wonderful years here. My time at this great club will always rank as the best years of my career."

    United manager Moyes said Vidic would carry on as skipper until he goes and said of the decision to depart: "It was something we mutually agreed together, me and Nemanja. I think it was the right decision for both the club and the player.

    "What I discussed with him will remain private, but he has been a brilliant servant and captain for Manchester United. He is captain and will remain captain until the end of the season.

    "He has been a great player for us, and we will continue to play him. He's a great leader for this club and served the club really well and I would expect that to continue right up until the end of the season."

    Moyes said he had not forced Vidic's departure in a bid to refresh United’s squad and bring in a younger generation of players.

    He added: "I think people know that I've got things in my mind that I want to do and things I wanted to change in time. I can’t do it all overnight.

    "That wasn't the reason for this. As I said, we mutually decided together. He felt it was the right time for him. We’ll get on with it and we’ll move on."
    He wants Rooney to be captain? Just feel that with Vivdic gone, Man U defense could be weaker aerially... The start of the exodus......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfmoon View Post
    He wants Rooney to be captain? Just feel that with Vivdic gone, Man U defense could be weaker aerially... The start of the exodus......
    Got a feeling that he might be leaving as well ... maybe this or next season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by melvin View Post

    Got a feeling that he might be leaving as well ... maybe this or next season?
    It is better for both side if Rooney leave, bcoz of rooney, Kagawa cant play CAM and now Mata too. Years ago, SAF didnt sign Ballack cause Rooney too...and Rooney performance so far didnt hit top/world class yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolhirako View Post
    It is better for both side if Rooney leave, bcoz of rooney, Kagawa cant play CAM and now Mata too. Years ago, SAF didnt sign Ballack cause Rooney too...and Rooney performance so far didnt hit top/world class yet
    When Rooney and Ronaldo was the 2 hottest property at Man U then... one become world class, the over over rate himself.... and never fulfill those potentials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by melvin View Post
    Got a feeling that he might be leaving as well ... maybe this or next season?
    Most likely next, as he would want to get more money... this is a mercenary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfmoon View Post

    When Rooney and Ronaldo was the 2 hottest property at Man U then... one become world class, the over over rate himself.... and never fulfill those potentials.
    Self discipline is important, Ronaldo get train almost everyday even holiday while Rooney getting Beer haha

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    After 8 years then decide to leave, common sense will tell a normal rational thinking person, he is asked to give up his captaincy and stay or leave, simple as that. What mutual consent, nonsense. There is going to be a revolution of changes in MU under DM. He does not like the old MU style under SAF (a proven one) and will change the whole team way of playing with any opportunity. The exodus of players will continue. Like I said before, its going to be another 2 seasons to pick up the broken pieces and be contenders again. All MU fans get prepare to see more changes and below par performances because with such uncertainties and surprises, results will definitely suffer. Hopefully this scenario is very short-term and we can see better results next season. Giggs is going to retire soon. Kagawa not play regularly, looses potential to excel, now with Vidic gone too. Rooney is better playing some other clubs who still value him or he is still worth an investment. IMO, giving him the permanent captaincy will not be a good idea. His potential is striker role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolhirako View Post
    Self discipline is important, Ronaldo get train almost everyday even holiday while Rooney getting Beer haha
    Ronaldo is fit like hell, and his physic... woow... Ron is like a Perfectionist...

    Rooney simply is different.... Mercenary... he limit himself... and hard for him to break the ceiling now.... SOme of his passes have been wayward too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Chan View Post
    After 8 years then decide to leave, common sense will tell a normal rational thinking person, he is asked to give up his captaincy and stay or leave, simple as that. What mutual consent, nonsense. There is going to be a revolution of changes in MU under DM. He does not like the old MU style under SAF (a proven one) and will change the whole team way of playing with any opportunity. The exodus of players will continue. Like I said before, its going to be another 2 seasons to pick up the broken pieces and be contenders again. All MU fans get prepare to see more changes and below par performances because with such uncertainties and surprises, results will definitely suffer. Hopefully this scenario is very short-term and we can see better results next season. Giggs is going to retire soon. Kagawa not play regularly, looses potential to excel, now with Vidic gone too. Rooney is better playing some other clubs who still value him or he is still worth an investment. IMO, giving him the permanent captaincy will not be a good idea. His potential is striker role.
    I doubt... really doubt DM have the brain, as a tactician to pull it out... by next season, we will know... Hope next season have Top 4.....

    Let's wait and see....
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    Rooney is now a liability, over rated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Rooney is now a liability, over rated.
    If expect him to carry the team.... I no confident in him and DM...
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    Vidic's departure will add to Moyes' challenges at United
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    Manchester United's shopping list in full: Defence, and midfield, with further players comfortable and dangerous on the flanks. For the moment, the forward line should be OK, though it might be nice if Robin Van Persie and Wayne Rooney would pass to each other on occasions other than kickoffs, as happened last week at Stoke.

    P.S.: A captain is now required, as well.

    Nemanja Vidic leads the clear out as refurbishment begins. The Serbian warlord exits as a much reduced force. The cruciate knee ligament injury he suffered in snowbound Basle in December 2011 robbed him of his pace, and the comebacks have been intermittent since. Vidic played just 23 matches last season, 10 the year before that, and his 21 outings under David Moyes have in no sense replicated the dominance of his best years at United.

    Perhaps nobody else in the Premier League era has matched Vidic's aerial dominance. A combination of anticipation and all-round dirtiness has robbed many a striker at the last gasp.

    His Christmas Day 2005 signing from Spartak Moscow was a gift to United. A meek start was swiftly converted into monstering indispensability. An injury against Blackburn in March 2007 looked to have robbed United of the ballast they required to lift their first title in four seasons but Vidic returned, perhaps ahead of schedule. A horror show in that year's Champions League semifinal at AC Milan suggested so but within a year, Vidic was key to Sir Alex Ferguson's second European Cup triumph.

    Only in November's home victory against Arsenal was Vidic's former self sighted. It looked a turning point for club and player. Instead, it proved a false dawn for both. In United's swim against the tide, Vidic is among those struggling to keep his head above water. A silly sending-off at Chelsea was the nadir. It terminated a performance in which he had struggled terribly. That added-time hack at Eden Hazard was a dereliction of a skipper's duty, a reflection of a player failing to fight the dying of the light.

    That may be the moment that club and player decided that each should go their separate ways. United can take a leading earner off their wage bill, Vidic can seek a lucrative contract to see out the final years of his career. United had the best of him.

    Back in the summer of 2010, it looked as if Vidic would be joining Cristiano Ronaldo, with whom he had a close relationship, at Real Madrid. Instead, he signed a new contract that was accompanied by the captain’s armband, and led United to their 19th title. By the time of their 20th last May, such influence had waned, as Rio Ferdinand played his best season since the pair anchored United's 2008 Champions League triumph.

    The pair are set to depart together this summer with Patrice Evra almost certainly sharing their leaving party with them, leaving United with one-quarter of a formerly first-choice defence, and with Moyes as hardly a huge admirer of Rafael, either.

    Ferdinand had already been banished to the peripheries even as United required defensive stability. Jonny Evans, Phil Jones and Chris Smalling are now ahead of him in Moyes' reckoning. That Ferdinand's response has not befit an elder statesman or senior professional offers something of Moyes' reasoning.

    "Managerial merry go round looks on the cards again....who next after Laudrup are we thinking??" @rioferdy5 tweeted on Tuesday. Despite his braggadocio image, Ferdinand is not short of intelligence, and must have known that his twittering would be angled toward a manager he has next to no relationship with. Ferdinand will be joining his own merry-go-round this summer, with a Stateside move leading his options.

    "The options we've got now all round the park, if we can keep everyone fit, are as good as I've had in my time here," said Sir Alex Ferguson just a year ago. Moyes might beg to differ. Even those in the Moyes-denial camp would acknowledge that he was bequeathed a squad both over the hill and short on quality.

    Those who want Moyes to be given time and resources would acknowledge that he does not possess his predecessor's capabilities to make do and mend, bludgeon and blend. Age, loss of form and an inability to adjust to a new setup among previous leading lights has left Moyes' new team spineless. A group that had most domestic opponents beaten in the pre-match tunnel is vulnerable, with a manager who seems publicly unwilling to accept its shortcoming while spending his days off seeking fresh blood on scouting missions.

    At his peak, Vidic was the best partner for all four of his colleagues, complementing Ferdinand's grace with aggression, and talking his younger teammates through matches. Moyes could do with such an organiser in a team where lack of leadership is perhaps the greatest fault. The Scot has been unfortunate to work with a captain who had lost the edge that made him so effective.

    Replacing Vidic makes Moyes' job yet more difficult.
    Vivdic if go Italy will be best as the pace is slower there....
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    Man U vs Fulham

    Sunday. Anything else but a Man U win.... DM should *walk out* himself...
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    Arsenal being thrashed!! 20mins into the game and it's 4-0 to Liverpool!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Arsenal being thrashed!! 20mins into the game and it's 4-0 to Liverpool!
    WTF?????
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    AC Milan Article in Man U thread???

    Ok, I highlight what I thought was rather... related to Man U... as in DM....

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    Seedorf aims high despite a massive task at Milan
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    Sat in the crowd at the Vicente Calderon on Sunday night was a certain Clarence Seedorf. He was there scouting Atletico Madrid, the team against whom he scored one of his most famous goals. You remember the one. It was during a season opening Madrid derby 17 years ago, a soaring diagonal shot into the top corner from just inside the opponent's half.

    Seedorf, in the white and purple of Real, was only 21 years old. That season he would lift the Champions League for the second time in three years after doing so with Ajax in 1995. And it was that very same competition, the one he'll forever be associated with as a four-time winner with three different clubs, which brought him to this part of Madrid's Arganzuela district at the weekend.

    In a fortnight's time, Milan are due to play Atleti at the San Siro in the first leg of their Champions League last 16 tie and the scale of the task facing Seedorf is now in sharper focus. "Did you see?" asked La Gazzetta dello Sport. How could he not? On an emotional evening following the death of Luis Aragones, Atleti gave their former player and coach quite the send-off. Real Sociedad were blown away 4-0.

    So too were Seedorf and the man sat beside him, Milan chief executive Adriano Galliani, who couldn't get over how much Atleti ran and their "extraordinary athletic condition."

    On his return to Italy, he hailed Diego Simeone but singled out their fitness coach for special praise. That Atleti had not only stayed with Barcelona but also been the ones to overtake them, loosening the grip the Catalan side had exerted on pole position in La Liga for 59 weeks to go top themselves for the first time since 1996 was, Galliani claimed, "something super for them" and spoke of just how dangerous this team is. Diego Costa, their fearsome striker, scored his 20th league goal of the season; David Villa his 11th.

    The consensus is that Milan risk a kicking from the Champions League's dark horses. Seedorf should perhaps pick up the phone and dial his former coach at Milan, Carlo Ancelotti. He knows how to beat Atleti as demonstrated in Real's 3-0 victory over them in the Copa del Rey on Wednesday.

    Qualifying for next season's competition by winning it this year does seem an unrealistic prospect for Milan. Sure, Roberto di Matteo managed to do just that with Chelsea after replacing Andre Villas-Boas in the spring two years ago, a reminder that sometimes the stars just align and that anything can happen in football. But it's hard to see Seedorf doing the same on succeeding Max Allegri.

    Milan's ills, you feel, are not the kind that can be cured overnight although they do seem to be in recovery. "You don't lose your DNA," Seedorf insisted. "You can pick up a virus, but the anti-virus is already arriving."

    The Champions League is in Milan's DNA. How else do you explain their status as the only Italian club still in the competition this season? Considering how they started the campaign and the many injuries they had, many considered that even getting through a group comprising Ajax, Celtic and Barcelona would be beyond them. But they did.

    Above all else, a better match for Milan's DNA than Seedorf could not be found. It's one of the reasons he was appointed. He personifies the Milan of Silvio Berlusconi. His predecessor didn't.

    Galliani expressed this to Il Corriere della Sera reporter Alberto Costa on more than one occasion. According to him, a shortcoming of Allegri, a coach he recommended they appoint and backed until the last, was that he didn't have "Milan's culture." He never entered into the spirit of things. His team didn't play "the Milan way" -- they were lacking in ideas. He distanced Milan greats and his press conferences weren't an event. There was little to be enthusiastic about. That's certainly how Berlusconi felt. Milan no longer excited him. Seedorf's promise does. He sees potential in him like he did in Arrigo Sacchi, Fabio Capello and Ancelotti.

    You get the sense with Seedorf that while inexperienced in coaching terms, he knows what it takes to make Milan be Milan again. A lot of the work he has done over the last three weeks has been about reminding the players of the club's greatness, its grandeur. "I want to rebuild the values of Milan," he said. "After the farewell of senators [like Paolo Maldini, Alessandro Nesta, Rino Gattuso, himself, Andrea Pirlo and Pippo Inzaghi] a hole of values has been created." He has tried to fill it. How?

    For one, by inviting legends like Capello to watch the team train and then speak with the players. Seedorf claims to have asked Marco van Basten too, even though he questioned Milan's decision to hire him. Another old face re-appearing at Milanello is that of Bruno de Michelis, the club's former psychologist during the Sacchi and Capello years, who has been a member of Ancelotti's coaching staff. Come the summer it's expected that Hernan Crespo and Jaap Stam will be offered roles too.

    Giving Milan its identity back is what Seedorf is trying to achieve here. He is looking to bring individuals together and connect them to something greater than themselves. It's a mental process. Finding the team down in 11th place and outside the Champions League places by 20 points, he said: "The table is an ugly thing to look at, I'll talk about it as little as possible."

    A student of Phil Jackson, the 11-time NBA championship winning coach, he knows from his book The Soul of Success that "being fixated on winning [or more likely, not losing] is counterproductive, especially when it causes you to lose control of your emotions. What's more, obsessing about winning is a loser's game: The most we can hope for is to create the best possible conditions for success, then let go of the outcome."

    That's what Seedorf is attempting to do. Instead of staring at the table, he wants Milan to focus on other aspects like coming into work and having fun again. There have been games of tag and dodgeball to foster a sense of togetherness, to build team spirit and get players to engage in group experience. Milan are beginning a journey and Seedorf wants them to enjoy the ride.

    His outlook on football also corresponds more with Milan [and that of Berlusconi]. "I will never betray my philosophy, but you can be attacking in different ways. I will try to teach a total football," he told La Gazzetta dello Sport. "A mix of Dutch possession, Spanish movement in attack, Italian defensive quality combined with a mentality oriented around the result and the speed and creativity of the Brazilians."

    Sounds idealistic, doesn't it? Just a touch.

    The concern with Seedorf is that he's another Leonardo: multi-lingual, charismatic and full of lofty ideas. The system he plays is the same too: a 4-2-3-1 or "4-2-Fantasia" as Leo's was known.

    So far under Seedorf, it has yielded seven points out of nine in the league but there are reservations about it. Because for all the spiel that the team attacks in 11 and defends in 11, the impression is that the four up front often don't track back, leaving the midfield overrun and the defence exposed. At times Milan look broken in two, their set-up naive and unlike in 2009-10, they don't have Thiago Silva and Nesta to cover.

    Shaking off the Leo-sceptics and proving himself worthy of such a job at the beginning of his coaching career is the challenge facing Seedorf.

    With that in mind, Saturday night's visit to Napoli promises to be his biggest test yet. Down the sideline from him in the opponent's dug-out is Rafa Benitez, the architect of Milan's downfall in Istanbul in 2005 and more recently, Napoli's first win at the San Siro since April 13, 1986. His team, though 15 points ahead of Milan and in the third and final Champions League place they covet, have started to mirror them: same system, same mistakes in calamitous defence, same wingers who don't tuck in and cover. It should make for an open game.

    Whatever the result -- whether it constitutes a step towards gaining the confidence Milan require to beat Atleti or a step back -- the anti-virus Seedorf has injected is going to take time to work.
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    Liverpool 5 - 1 Gooner...

    Think Man U prepare for Europa... if they can get it....
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    I'm a world class player, why would I want to join Man Utd now that they cannot even qualify for the Champions League?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    I'm a world class player, why would I want to join Man Utd now that they cannot even qualify for the Champions League?
    For the money...

    DM have no charisma... No tactics... Won Zero... Ok.. Community Shield..
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