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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    There is (to some degree): Cervical cancer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "Human papillomavirus (HPV) infection appears to be a necessary factor in the development of almost all cases (90+%) of cervical cancer. HPV vaccines effective against the two strains of this large family of viruses that currently cause approximately 70% of cases of cervical cancer have been licensed in the U.S, Canada, Australia, and the EU."
    Yep, but that's just for one known cause of one cancer.

    There are like, only so many types of cancer with so many causes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edutilos- View Post
    Yep, but that's just for one known cause of one cancer.

    There are like, only so many types of cancer with so many causes.
    Infectious causes of cancer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Yes, as I said - it is a CLASS of diseases. So you can't just have one cure or one method of prevention for ALL cancer. But for some, vaccines are certainly possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed9119 View Post
    sorry I am naive but I am under the impression that you cannot prevent cancer. You just reduce the risk of it.

    I have healthy , young , non-smoking, non-drinking friends struck down by various forms of cancer over the years ..... one of them barely 30 years old, fit as a fiddle, healthy lifestyle, marathon runner and suddenly gone in 2 months from liver cancer
    that is the crux of the matter my friend.
    Those are only apparent factors. There are more unseen possible causations/causalities. You are bombarded every day, every hr, every sec by unseen radiation surrounding you, most of the food that you eat now are processed in some form, the ocean/land are contaminated by toxic materials..blah blah and blah.
    think about it.

    Heard about a story of an american who was diagnosed of having cancer and given max 2 yrs to live by his doctor. He refused chemo therapy and went to spent his supposingly last 2yrs of his life in a cave, so to speak, in his native land and live to about 80+?, went back to the US to look for the doctor who diagnosed his cancer. Guess what, the doctor died years before him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2xpeter View Post
    that is the crux of the matter my friend.
    Those are only apparent factors. There are more unseen possible causations/causalities. You are bombarded every day, every hr, every sec by unseen radiation surrounding you, most of the food that you eat now are processed in some form, the ocean/land are contaminated by toxic materials..blah blah and blah.
    think about it.

    Heard about a story of an american who was diagnosed of having cancer and given max 2 yrs to live by his doctor. He refused chemo therapy and went to spent his supposingly last 2yrs of his life in a cave, so to speak, in his native land and live to about 80+?, went back to the US to look for the doctor who diagnosed his cancer. Guess what, the doctor died years before him.
    That's a problem with cancer stories. You will always hear about the exceptions.

    I once asked another oncologist about alternative medicine. Her reply was "I have seen many cases: there are those who underwent only western medical treatment. Some lived, some died. There are those who underwent only alternative treatment. Some lived, some died. There are those who underwent both western and alternative treatment. Some lived, some died. There are those who refused all treatment. Some lived, some died. So take your pick."
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    There is (to some degree): Cervical cancer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "Human papillomavirus (HPV) infection appears to be a necessary factor in the development of almost all cases (90+%) of cervical cancer. HPV vaccines effective against the two strains of this large family of viruses that currently cause approximately 70% of cases of cervical cancer have been licensed in the U.S, Canada, Australia, and the EU."
    That is true.
    and there is some research that points to inflammations as one of the causality too.

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    our knowledge of cancer, inclusive of those so-called medical experts, is still in its infancy.
    Hence, more effort should be spent on prevention research rather than cure research.
    As UncleFai puts it nicely, any type of cure methods, be it Western, Eastern, Northern, Southern or Alternative only gives you 50/50 chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2xpeter View Post
    Hence, more effort should be spent on prevention research rather than cure research.
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    great debate topic

    prevention awareness has already been in full swing for many years already for various forms of cancer
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    this article seems to give an good example on the over-emphasis on cure for some selfish reason.

    Do Sharks Hold Secret to Human Cancer Fight?

    Quoting a para from it....

    "Carl and others are asking very good questions," he said. "There may be fundamental differences in shark immune systems so that they aren't as prone to cancer, or so that certain types of compounds might not be a problem for them."

    They are approaching the problem from the more "preventive" perspective, ie finding out how shark might defend themselves against cancer, which then could apply to human to PREVENT cancer.

    Whereas, those group that are asking from the "cure" perspective are killing thousands of sharks just to get their cartilage. SAD.

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    If only it was that simple, ask the right questions & you get the right answers (only in academia perhaps).

    Its been 40+ years since the war has been declared on cancer but to date, there are still so many unanswered questions. Doctors dont really have all the answers & we still struggling to overcome this scourge of cancer. Once I ask an eminent oncologist whats the cause of NPC, a common cancer amongst men, he was like blah blah blah maybe this maybe that, no one really knows Perhaps with advances in the cancer genome project more answers may be revealed.


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    Pray tell us what/which part grows...
    Just an example Cancer Caused by Chemotherapy or Radiation - Online Medical Encyclopedia - University of Rochester Medical Center
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    Quote Originally Posted by s1221ljc View Post
    If only it was that simple, ask the right questions & you get the right answers (only in academia perhaps).

    Its been 40+ years since the war has been declared on cancer but to date, there are still so many unanswered questions. Doctors dont really have all the answers & we still struggling to overcome this scourge of cancer. Once I ask an eminent oncologist whats the cause of NPC, a common cancer amongst men, he was like blah blah blah maybe this maybe that, no one really knows Perhaps with advances in the cancer genome project more answers may be revealed.



    Just an example Cancer Caused by Chemotherapy or Radiation - Online Medical Encyclopedia - University of Rochester Medical Center
    Perhaps they hv not been asking the right questions. LOL. That is why they are taking so long to get the right answers.

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    So simplistic, but then you are a cat

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    Perhaps they hv not been asking the right questions. LOL. That is why they are taking so long to get the right answers.

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    i am actually wondering how many of you got wombs be at risk from hpv
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    Gene therapy is the way to go.

    But of course there is a whole host of ethical issues to deal with for playing God.
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    The right question is: Doctor, do I have cancer? If he says Yes, don't take his word for it. Always get a second or third opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s1221ljc View Post
    So simplistic, but then you are a cat
    ya, cat ask simple, effective and right questions, unlike human like yourself who "kei kiang" and ask very complicated and irrelevant [aka irreverent, just in case you don't know] questions and thought you hv got the right answers. LOLLLL. and 40yrs later still scratching your head.

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    Constant exposure to the harmful radiation from camera sensor through viewfinder is dangerous.

    So many have sacrificed their lives in pursue of the ilusive Art in photography.

    Please use camera LCD instead for your health, your children and your country:



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    Even if the doctors do not know all the causes or have all the answers, they have some of the cures. At least I know of so many people who have been in reality cured of cancer by those who ask that question, myself included, & not just make empty talk only like you.... or rather just meow about asking the right question on this & right question on that.

    And as someone pointed out, you cant read. The ariticle in question made a statement, not ask a question. Which made your thread title & postulation messed up.

    Quote Originally Posted by d2xpeter View Post
    ya, cat ask simple, effective and right questions, unlike human like yourself who "kei kiang" and ask very complicated and irrelevant [aka irreverent, just in case you don't know] questions and thought you hv got the right answers. LOLLLL. and 40yrs later still scratching your head.
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