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    Cool A newbie discussion on diffusers/external flashes

    So i was looking at how to solve the problem of a harshly lit picture from the pop-up flash without ploughing down a few hundred bucks for a standard canon speedlite, and i came across 2 solutions

    1) A flash diffuser for the pop up flash
    2) A cheap third party external flash


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    1) there are some articles that claim diffusers for the pop up flash are worthless since they already dispel what is left of the weak flash available. anyone has comments on this? the sample pictures i have seen show vary, as some seem to show remarkable improvement while others...not so much. the diffusers i have looked at and may consider are the lumiquest softscreen and the fong puffer. however i am unable to find any local shops that stock them...any lobang would be appreciated

    2) while a standard canon ext flash may range from 200-500 from what i have seen, the most affordable one i have found is the vivitar 183, which is around 45 USD on B&H if im not wrong. reviews seem to put it in a good light(pun intended) but again i am unable to find any local stores that stock this. anyone has an idea of where i can find it? Of course, recommendations of any similar flash in the same class/category would be much appreciated(the 183 has a 5 degree tilt for its price. really a steal.)

    thanks in advance, and of course, please do not say "either you get a good quality flash or you get nothing" not everyone likes to experiment with a few hundred dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLoneRanger View Post
    So i was looking at how to solve the problem of a harshly lit picture from the pop-up flash without ploughing down a few hundred bucks for a standard canon speedlite, and i came across 2 solutions

    1) A flash diffuser for the pop up flash
    2) A cheap third party external flash

    For the case of

    1) there are some articles that claim diffusers for the pop up flash are worthless since they already dispel what is left of the weak flash available. anyone has comments on this? the sample pictures i have seen show vary, as some seem to show remarkable improvement while others...not so much. the diffusers i have looked at and may consider are the lumiquest softscreen and the fong puffer. however i am unable to find any local shops that stock them...any lobang would be appreciated

    2) while a standard canon ext flash may range from 200-500 from what i have seen, the most affordable one i have found is the vivitar 183, which is around 45 USD on B&H if im not wrong. reviews seem to put it in a good light(pun intended) but again i am unable to find any local stores that stock this. anyone has an idea of where i can find it? Of course, recommendations of any similar flash in the same class/category would be much appreciated(the 183 has a 5 degree tilt for its price. really a steal.)

    thanks in advance, and of course, please do not say "either you get a good quality flash or you get nothing" not everyone likes to experiment with a few hundred dollars.
    Locally look into yong nuo, nissin. Vivitar not really popular over here, maybe the 285hvs at one point. Pop up flash mmm i never use. Lol

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    don't waste time on soften the built in flash, it is so tiny, so close to the lens axis and not powerful at all, unless you are shooting close up objects, like insects,
    best just get a hotshoe flash and bounce off ceiling.
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    USD $45 plus shipping, you will not save much,

    just buy a China Made flash from local tomorrow and you can start shooting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catchlights View Post
    USD $45 plus shipping, you will not save much,

    just buy a China Made flash from local tomorrow and you can start shooting.
    hi catchlights do you mean something like a yongnuo?(not sure if its china made but it sounds like it haha)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLoneRanger View Post
    hi catchlights do you mean something like a yongnuo?(not sure if its china made but it sounds like it haha)
    yes the YN is MIC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eleveninth View Post
    yes the YN is MIC.
    ok cool, thanks! will start looking at the various models. meanwhile, any other input is welcomed =D

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    Used a pop up flash diffuser (S$10) before and it sucks. A lot of light bouncing back at the shooter and it did not really soften the flash enough. In the end bought a YN and I like it so far. But be advice, dun expect instant results without learning how it use it first. Hope it helps.

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    A common misconception is that diffusing a light is to place a translucent material infront of the flash. But the actual fact is that diffusing a light involves softening the shadow edges, and that is accomplished by increasing the SIZE of the light source in relation to the subject.

    So when a light is bounced from the ceiling, or a big bounce card, or softbox, what you are really doing is enlarging the size of the light.
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    mmm if only someone could make a guide to flashes =p been reading up in the respository but a guide to flashes is not there...*hint hint* hahaha btw, if shooting outdoors with nothing to bounce the light off, a diffuser is still needed correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLoneRanger View Post
    mmm if only someone could make a guide to flashes =p been reading up in the respository but a guide to flashes is not there...*hint hint* hahaha btw, if shooting outdoors with nothing to bounce the light off, a diffuser is still needed correct?
    If there is nothing to bounce, use a softbox or maybe even use bare flash light (turn the flash head at your subject and fire straight).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyStrike View Post

    If there is nothing to bounce, use a softbox or maybe even use bare flash light (turn the flash head at your subject and fire straight).
    If nothing to bounce, goggle 'bounce cards', easily diy even pros diy, or read up on things like 'rogue'products, and many other brands..

    Most flash also have built-in bounce cards..

    Many options before firing straight, unless thats e effect wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLoneRanger View Post
    mmm if only someone could make a guide to flashes =p been reading up in the respository but a guide to flashes is not there...*hint hint* hahaha btw, if shooting outdoors with nothing to bounce the light off, a diffuser is still needed correct?
    Bro you must be living in a jungle alone man. Guide on flashes are all over the internet. More than the trees in your jungle Ranger. Just google.
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    Default Re: A newbie discussion on diffusers/external flashes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLoneRanger View Post
    mmm if only someone could make a guide to flashes =p been reading up in the respository but a guide to flashes is not there...*hint hint* hahaha btw, if shooting outdoors with nothing to bounce the light off, a diffuser is still needed correct?
    are you sure? very sure? very very sure?

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    I buy a lot of books from book depository, zack arias has a one light guide also. Syl arena has one for canon speedlites really alot out there

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    whoops i was referring to the repository section under the newbies corner =p shall go to the lib to check em out! thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLoneRanger View Post
    whoops i was referring to the repository section under the newbies corner =p shall go to the lib to check em out! thank you
    can join the strobist group on flickr, if you view enough you'll learn how to set up etc.

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    Saw in library there there even a book on canon flash.
    Youtube also has quite nos of guide, tips etc.. if u the type will often fall asleep when reading a book, it be better to view some videos
    Just that may need some time to find the right one.

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    Yongnuo is very cheap and good and fairly reliable .
    you can build your own speed light soft box in my article and guides thread Beyond Basics. very neat small soft box and light can carry around even handheld
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