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    Red is the same colour as the 645D but the camera comes with a NON-WR 18-55.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sobrietyanonymous View Post
    just buy overseas! apparently amazon now supports electronic shipments overseas.. i purchased a headphone and a mp3 player lately.

    other major sites like adorama and bh photos are reliable sites also.

    screw ADP. since they arrived our prices have risen significantly.

    We better don't go that far. It won't do any good to us if APD is indeed screwed We still need after sale support, no matter under warranty or not.

    Bernard got it right, the best Pentax camera/lens repair guy (hint hint ) on the planet is w/ APD right now, this shows that APD do care about Pentax and about us users. Good price is one thing, after sale support is even more important if we want to expend the local Pentax/Ricoh user base.

    My own experience w/ APD was pretty pleasant when I sent my Sigma lens over for firmware upgrade. They did it for free even the lens was not bought locally and I had no proof of purchase at all (bought it secondhand). And best of all, it took only about 5min for them to get it done.

    We don't mind paying for good and fast service (which Emjay was lagging), but probably not as much as the huge price difference we've seen here. I really want to get the GR locally if the price is attractive, then I can dump the Fujifilm X100

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    there is no need to worry about from either side,

    as majority of pentax user still buy from local shops, I have seen quite some pink and red pentax cameras hanging on the necks of street people.

    only handful of pentax user come to this forum, and not to mention regularly,
    only geek people check forum daily and keep up with latest news.

    general camera users like my friends, they have no idea about what is the latest, most of general user dont even know what aperture means, and they just go to the any camera shops, and buy what they like and willing to pay, same for general canon or nikon users, pentax user also not necessory to be making smarter choice than the rest.

    not mention to buy online, at beginning, I never buy online because scare of internet fraud. most non-geeky people will buy stuffs like milk and fruits in supermarket.

    and how many of us actually go to wholesale market to buy fruits and milk stuffs, as monthly family food costs more than camera stuffs.

    while most people dont compare there and here, they just go fairprice to buy stuffs, and ignoring checking the cheaper price at nearby small mart (only smart wife does) , not mention ordering online.

    people make their choice, but market is driven by the majority people's choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnycamera View Post
    there is no need to worry about from either side,

    as majority of pentax user still buy from local shops, I have seen quite some pink and red pentax cameras hanging on the necks of street people.

    only handful of pentax user come to this forum, and not to mention regularly,
    only geek people check forum daily and keep up with latest news.

    general camera users like my friends, they have no idea about what is the latest, most of general user dont even know what aperture means, and they just go to the any camera shops, and buy what they like and willing to pay, same for general canon or nikon users, pentax user also dont necessory to be making smarter choice than the rest.

    not mention to buy online, at beginning, I never buy online because scare of internet fraud. most non-geeky people will buy stuffs like milk and fruits in supermarket.

    and how many of us actually go to wholesale market to buy fruits and milk stuffs, as monthly family food costs more than camera stuffs.

    while most people dont compare there and here, they just go fairprice to buy stuffs, and ignoring checking the cheaper price at nearby small mart (only smart wife does) , not mention ordering online.
    Maybe it's the geeks that will give them the repeat sales they want? Not just the accessories related to the camera, but also the different lenses to mount on, or simply different camera bodies?

    Or maybe we shouldn't compare milk,apples,oranges,chicken with camera?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fengwei View Post
    ... then I can dump the Fujifilm X100
    DUMP.

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    I see your point.

    But think how much better it will be if price is lower.
    Layman will buy based on visibility, brand perception and price.
    Pentax can't win on brand perception now.
    But now, price and visibility also too poor.

    Price, can be fixed now by distro. (and we are only suggesting fair price commensurate to the competition/camera type)
    Visibility, can be fixed by distro by pushing it to bigger stores and more camera shops.
    It can also be helped by camera enthusiasts like us (we can become more visible with us using the camera in public/events; showing our photos; tell/show friends, etc)
    Brand Perception, the distro can do some part too, but its a high mountain to climb at this point, but if the other 2 points get a firm hold, then slowly brand perception will improve with a larger user base.

    As I've always said.
    In the end a larger user base will benefit us.
    The distro also got nothing to loose.

    Quote Originally Posted by sunnycamera View Post
    there is no need to worry about from either side,

    as majority of pentax user still buy from local shops, I have seen quite some pink and red pentax cameras hanging on the necks of street people.

    only handful of pentax user come to this forum, and not to mention regularly,
    only geek people check forum daily and keep up with latest news.

    general camera users like my friends, they have no idea about what is the latest, most of general user dont even know what aperture means, and they just go to the any camera shops, and buy what they like and willing to pay, same for general canon or nikon users, pentax user also not necessory to be making smarter choice than the rest.

    not mention to buy online, at beginning, I never buy online because scare of internet fraud. most non-geeky people will buy stuffs like milk and fruits in supermarket.

    and how many of us actually go to wholesale market to buy fruits and milk stuffs, as monthly family food costs more than camera stuffs.

    while most people dont compare there and here, they just go fairprice to buy stuffs, and ignoring checking the cheaper price at nearby small mart (only smart wife does) , not mention ordering online.

    people make their choice, but market is driven by the majority people's choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hjbyeo View Post
    Or maybe we shouldn't compare milk,apples,oranges,chicken with camera?
    Can la, but he never factor in the fact that the wholesale markets are few and far between, so the transportation costs may not work out in the end. It's not quite the same as a $2 MRT ride to Funan or Sim Lim and clicking at home with the computer and adding in the delivery costs. :P
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    FW pls call me first, i camp downstair your block.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nik34 View Post
    FW pls call me first, i camp downstair your block.
    Haha! More like you have to watch the Personal Classified closely for the FW X100 being DUMP!
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    between APD as the distro, and we as the customers, remember that there are also stores in the middle, who also need to have the profit.
    major brand like apple may dictate the distro and stores. some brand may not have such strong power. we know that only some stores carry pentax.
    and dell tried to sell direct to customers.
    sometime it's not so simple and/or a direct line between manufacturer-distro-consumers. and for the manufacturer/distro, the stores may be their immediate consumers.
    all these may affect the whole pricing, marketing issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tofu master View Post
    between APD as the distro, and we as the customers, remember that there are also stores in the middle, who also need to have the profit.
    major brand like apple may dictate the distro and stores. some brand may not have such strong power. we know that only some stores carry pentax.
    and dell tried to sell direct to customers.
    sometime it's not so simple and/or a direct line between manufacturer-distro-consumers. and for the manufacturer/distro, the stores may be their immediate consumers.
    all these may affect the whole pricing, marketing issues.
    Well, if that is the case, I think the best customer the distributor has is SGcamera-who sell every item Pentax has but many have to order from distro or from Pentax Japan, 2nd is TK Foto-who said we only sell as set , no lens, no adapter, no battery , then 3rd is all other retailer shops- which carry once in a while some Pentax for display.
    Any other customers I missed?

    I think at the least, the distro must have a complete set of Q10 and 01-06 lens; popular cheaper lens 18-55WR, 18-135WR, DA15, DA35, DA50, latest camera K-30, K5 IIs, GR , MX-1,WG-3 stocked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tofu master View Post
    between APD as the distro, and we as the customers, remember that there are also stores in the middle, who also need to have the profit.
    major brand like apple may dictate the distro and stores. some brand may not have such strong power. we know that only some stores carry pentax.
    and dell tried to sell direct to customers.
    sometime it's not so simple and/or a direct line between manufacturer-distro-consumers. and for the manufacturer/distro, the stores may be their immediate consumers.
    all these may affect the whole pricing, marketing issues.
    What you said is 100% true, but it applies to all camera brands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nik34 View Post
    FW pls call me first, i camp downstair your block.
    Will let you know if I decide to let it go

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipKr35 View Post
    Apart from fair pricing which could make more sense to buy local, APDS has so far not engaging their customers. So far no Pentax Ricoh road show, no Pentax Ricoh contest, no nothing, dare not organize outing ( if you organize we Pentaxians will be there to support!), have not seen any Pentax advertisement locally, even a real estate agent could afford to put up advertisement!
    Got lah . Got Q watch contest.


    Pentax Q10 Watch by Simon Teo (supersimon27), on Flickr


    Pentax Q10 Watch 2 by Simon Teo (supersimon27), on Flickr

    Seriously , I can see the effort put in by APD . They just need to put in a little more effort on the pricing
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipKr35 View Post

    Well, if that is the case, I think the best customer the distributor has is SGcamera-who sell every item Pentax has but many have to order from distro or from Pentax Japan, 2nd is TK Foto-who said we only sell as set , no lens, no adapter, no battery , then 3rd is all other retailer shops- which carry once in a while some Pentax for display.
    Any other customers I missed?

    I think at the least, the distro must have a complete set of Q10 and 01-06 lens; popular cheaper lens 18-55WR, 18-135WR, DA15, DA35, DA50, latest camera K-30, K5 IIs, GR , MX-1,WG-3 stocked.
    I guess beside apd doing their best to advertise pentax brand, we also can help by spreading and joining more contest just like our famous pentaxian here kengoh,simon,edtlious etc...they prove that pentax can do it too....just my 2cts thx

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    Yes, agree! Jaiyen!
    I missed the Q10 watch contest! When was it?
    i think guessed Simon won it?

    Quote Originally Posted by jaiyen View Post

    I guess beside apd doing their best to advertise pentax brand, we also can help by spreading and joining more contest just like our famous pentaxian here kengoh,simon,edtlious etc...they prove that pentax can do it too....just my 2cts thx
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipKr35 View Post
    Yes, agree! Jaiyen!
    I missed the Q10 watch contest! When was it?
    i think guessed Simon won it?
    I saw that watch at SgCameraStore Lifestyle shop but not sure if it is for sale. Guys interested can go there check it out. I however preferred the K-Mount watch and hope it will come to Singapore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersimon27 View Post
    Got lah . Got Q watch contest.


    Pentax Q10 Watch by Simon Teo (supersimon27), on Flickr


    Pentax Q10 Watch 2 by Simon Teo (supersimon27), on Flickr

    Seriously , I can see the effort put in by APD . They just need to put in a little more effort on the pricing
    That's a really cool watch! Pity not so many people knew about this competition, even around here at the forum. I guess APD should have done better w/ this kind of events?

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