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    Dear all, i was actually at MBS for the auto salon and i took some pics with my GX1 with my Canon Speedlite but i found every pic i took was yellow tinted with the flash on..i tried adjusting my white balance but it did not seem to help at all..the pic on top is one example, i have others but i do not have time to upload all, please help me out here thanks~

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    Am not the expert for Canon here but generally my pics had a yellowish look to them when i was using flash and WB set to flash as well. Certain cameras allow for fine tuning the WB in more detailed but if yours can't, i guess the quickest way is to evaluate white surface.

    Also, taking in RAW helps as you can fine tune later on in PS.

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    The yellow tint was due to the different light sources... the ambient light should be tungsten with 3k-4k+ color temperature while your flash is 5k+.

    1 way is you can adjust your white balance to custom white balance and set the color temperature manually and gel your flash.
    Another way if you are shooting in RAW, you can try using the white balance's eyedropper tool and select a neutral color (e.g. the model's white jacket).
    Last edited by 177ingyang; 16th April 2013 at 12:43 PM. Reason: Additional note for post-process.

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    None of your flash even illuminated the subject. Were you shooting from too far away?
    Alpha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    None of your flash even illuminated the subject. Were you shooting from too far away?
    guessed as much too. doesn't seem like the flash even reached the subject.

    The Flash WB is designed to correct the blue of the Flash Lighting. but if it doesn't illuminate the subject, the colors will be warm.

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    Is it because the flash output was underpowered?
    Even if the flash output is power enough, it usually gives a color too warm that is pleasing to the eyes?
    How to resolve this issue? Overpower the ambient light or underexpose the background?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 177ingyang View Post
    Is it because the flash output was underpowered?
    Even if the flash output is power enough, it usually gives a color too warm that is pleasing to the eyes?
    How to resolve this issue? Overpower the ambient light or underexpose the background?
    In events like these, flash is meant to overpower the ambient lighting. Either that, or adjust your WB for the ambient lighting and forget flash.
    Alpha

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    either get a speedlight, or do what Rashkae mentioned

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    or another option, is to match your flash output with ambient lighting, i.e. by using appropriate flash gels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miaoteh View Post
    or another option, is to match your flash output with ambient lighting, i.e. by using appropriate flash gels.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    None of your flash even illuminated the subject. Were you shooting from too far away?
    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    guessed as much too. doesn't seem like the flash even reached the subject.

    The Flash WB is designed to correct the blue of the Flash Lighting. but if it doesn't illuminate the subject, the colors will be warm.
    read before making a suggestion like that. it would only apply if TS had a powerful enough flash to reach the subject, or if he were using a speedlite

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    For Jpeg, you cannot remove colour cast 100%. though here is one of the quick solution.
    If you are using mac, open with preview, go to "Tools" --> "Adjust Color" --> Tint. Click the ink drop to white color on the picture you think.
    This is what you will from the picture.. you can further fine tune the picture color based on your needs.

    Note: If you shoot with Raw image, the WB will be muck more better.



    add more to magenda colour ...
    Last edited by Nikihunter; 16th April 2013 at 09:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by 177ingyang View Post
    Is it because the flash output was underpowered?
    Even if the flash output is power enough, it usually gives a color too warm that is pleasing to the eyes?
    How to resolve this issue? Overpower the ambient light or underexpose the background?
    In events like these, flash is meant to overpower the ambient lighting. Either that, or adjust your WB for the ambient lighting and forget flash.
    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    read before making a suggestion like that. it would only apply if TS had a powerful enough flash to reach the subject, or if he were using a speedlite
    sorry, the option of flash gel is actually meant for this post instead of TS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    read before making a suggestion like that. it would only apply if TS had a powerful enough flash to reach the subject, or if he were using a speedlite
    kei1309, TS mention he is using "GX1 with my Canon Speedlite"... not sure what type of Speedlite.

    PS: Nope I am not stalking you... please dun use pepper spray on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miaoteh View Post
    sorry, the option of flash gel is actually meant for this post instead of TS...
    The gel on flash option also means you need to set custom white balance to match the right temperature and gel your flash with correct one (e.g. full, 1/2 or 1/4)?

    I find this option more difficult and troublesome.
    Sometimes there could be a mixture of different light source; unless you get the subject to hold a grey/white card for you or use something like expodisc, its tedious to get accurate white balance.
    For fast-paced events that requires you to move from place to place will be lagi worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 177ingyang View Post
    kei1309, TS mention he is using "GX1 with my Canon Speedlite"... not sure what type of Speedlite.

    PS: Nope I am not stalking you... please dun use pepper spray on me.
    Well based on that pic, it looks like the flash never fired.
    Alpha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    Well based on that pic, it looks like the flash never fired.
    my bad, not noticing the speedlite mounted

    adding on... if the flash had fired in her direction, you would have noticed harder shadows.

    so TS, how exactly did you angle the flash?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rashkae View Post
    Well based on that pic, it looks like the flash never fired.
    Could it also be the ISO too low and shutter speed too fast? The image does not look sharp and underexpose? Maybe flash output too low or angle wrong also?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kei1309 View Post
    my bad, not noticing the speedlite mounted

    adding on... if the flash had fired in her direction, you would have noticed harder shadows.

    so TS, how exactly did you angle the flash?
    Well, i actually placed my flash at the angle pointing to the ceiling, i did not wanted the flash to be pointed at the model as i am afraid it will be too overpowered..well actually i am still new in photography and also the flash light aspect..

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    I was not there, but I do believe the Ceilings of such event halls in MBS are very high. Definitely won't be able to bounce the flash back to the model, which is what you are attempting to do.

    You could have attached a diffuser on the flash head to shoot, or use a simple DIY bounce card on the flash. I prefer the latter, and it only cost me less than $2

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    Quote Originally Posted by vizard87 View Post
    Well, i actually placed my flash at the angle pointing to the ceiling, i did not wanted the flash to be pointed at the model as i am afraid it will be too overpowered..well actually i am still new in photography and also the flash light aspect..
    Considering how high the ceiling is... You really think it can bounce?

    Too overpowered? What did the 500+ other photogs on-scene do then?
    Alpha

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