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    Default High speed rail to KL

    The PMs agreed on the deal. To be build by 2020. A 300km railway by 2020. And the much shorter additional MRT lines by 2030. Hmmm...

    Anyway, mag lev you think? I tried the Shanghai one - very nice leh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFai View Post
    The PMs agreed on the deal. To be build by 2020. A 300km railway by 2020. And the much shorter additional MRT lines by 2030. Hmmm...

    Anyway, mag lev you think? I tried the Shanghai one - very nice leh.
    Immature technology that is too extremely costly? Not a chance, one of the proposal by Siemens Mobility is for Velaro rolling stocks and train sets to be utilised.
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    Should try the following China G Trains:

    Xian-Guangzhou G Train: 2128km 9hr 03min < RMB 820

    http://tielu.org/Search/G832-G833.html

    Beijing-Guangzhou G Train: 2298Km 7hr 59min < RMB 900

    http://tielu.org/Search/G79.html

    Pics of G Train Station

    http://news.cntv.cn/2012/12/26/PHOA1...8254.shtml#g=2
    Last edited by shierwin; 19th February 2013 at 04:33 PM.

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    take plane can already . less than fifty ringit. drivers can't even buy a full tank of fuel for fifty sing .
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    Own country rail also like shyt liao, still want to develop in a country whereby rail also got problems. Later major accident, really gong xi fa cai! Take it at your own risk!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBTM View Post
    Own country rail also like shyt liao, still want to develop in a country whereby rail also got problems. Later major accident, really gong xi fa cai! Take it at your own risk!
    No choice... have to use foreign talents lor...

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    If they are talking about Bullet Train. Technically possible. Other countries have done it.

    Execution of the plan by SG/MLY is the problem.

    Potential issues:

    • corruption in mega project
    design flaws
    • neglect and lousy day to day maintenance - especially this. A derailment at bullet train speed will cause many fatalities.

    who will foot the bill for the system? Is it 50/50 when the majority (say 95%) of the track is in MLY?

    • 2 countries involved - likely a joint project team but who is really in charge to make major decisions?

    We (both countries) do not have the high tech capability of Germany.
    We (both countries) do not have the attention to detail of Japan.

    Both PMs LHL and Najib get along well. This is good. Much better than the LKY-Mahatir era which had endless quarrels.
    But this is a long term project 2020 by which time, both SG and MLY will have new PMs.
    Worry is whether future PMs of both countries will get along well and cooperate easily. Or else this project will be crippled later on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9V-Orion Images View Post
    Immature technology that is too extremely costly? Not a chance, one of the proposal by Siemens Mobility is for Velaro rolling stocks and train sets to be utilised.
    Airplane was once a costly immature technology..

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    don't worry.
    we will have the exorbitant fees of Singapore and laid back attitude of Malaysia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanzohattori View Post
    Airplane was once a costly immature technology..
    True but Maglev has never been used on such a scale before. The longest lines which are just experimental in nature are the JR–Maglev Yamanashi Test Track and the Emsland Transrapid Test Facility (TVE) at only 42.8 km and 31.5 km respectively. Perhaps Japan Railway (JR) Technical Research Institute (RTRI) might be willing to share their technology with us though it may be quite costly.

    Magnetic levitating (Maglev) trains in vacuum tubes (Vactrain) is also another point of interest that has been researched upon with a maximum theoretical speed limit past supersonic velocity but if there was ever a breach of airtightness integrity through the tunnel resulting in decompression, the vactrain will be ripped apart in seconds.
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    Very good, can go JB/KL to buy house, then everyday come back sg to work.
    Prepare for the big property market crash

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArchRival View Post
    Very good, can go JB/KL to buy house, then everyday come back sg to work.
    Prepare for the big property market crash
    90 minutes to wherever the link ends? Nah, don't think many people will want to wake up at 5-6 am to get to work by 8.30 am...

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    Quote Originally Posted by edutilos- View Post
    90 minutes to wherever the link ends? Nah, don't think many people will want to wake up at 5-6 am to get to work by 8.30 am...
    Erm, actually many Malaysians are already doing that. 2 - 3 hours jam at the causeway? Hardly uncommon, not just Malaysians many Singaporeans as well. You may want to see for yourself how crowded the first train actually is as some journeyed their way across the island to work. Just saying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 9V-Orion Images View Post
    Erm, actually many Malaysians are already doing that. 2 - 3 hours jam at the causeway? Hardly uncommon, not just Malaysians many Singaporeans as well. You may want to see for yourself how crowded the first train actually is as some journeyed their way across the island to work. Just saying...
    A lot of Singaporeans are living in Malaysia?

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    I can't see any point of a high speed train between KL and Singapore.

    Malaysia is not a fast growing economy with huge potentials like China.

    An undersea high speed rail link from Singapore to Shanghai is what we need.


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    Quote Originally Posted by edutilos- View Post
    A lot of Singaporeans are living in Malaysia?
    I was referring to travelling time with the aforementioned "first train ... across the island ..." being our MRT from Pasir Ris MRT Station (EW1) to Joo Koon MRT Station (EW29) and vice versa.

    But yes, there is also a significant community of Singaporeans residing in Johor Bahru (JB) with their own dedicated association and forums.
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    Singapore to KL in 45 mins but clearing custom at JB 2 hours? If train can clear custom in 3 mins, then business in JB enough liow no need to go to KL. Johore state plus Singapore island can already do wonders!

    Die die it is a political game about 2 countries. Bad start how to be successful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bukitimah
    Singapore to KL in 45 mins but clearing custom at JB 2 hours? If train can clear custom in 3 mins, then business in JB enough liow no need to go to KL. Johore state plus Singapore island can already do wonders!

    Die die it is a political game about 2 countries. Bad start how to be successful?
    Clear Singapore custom before boarding, and clear Malaysia custom on the train lor. Not like you can jump a 300 km/h train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edutilos-

    A lot of Singaporeans are living in Malaysia?
    A lot of Singaporeans (especially the elderly) WILL BE living in Malaysia.

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    I thot this is quite cool! No need to sit 4-5 hrs bus or wait 2 hrs at airport. It will be like Sin is part of Msia.
    Last edited by ManWearPants; 20th February 2013 at 09:10 AM.

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